<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384</id><updated>2012-02-10T01:07:39.024-06:00</updated><category term='moving'/><category term='PETA'/><category term='zeitgeist'/><category term='new hampshire'/><category term='wichita'/><category term='abomination'/><category term='newton'/><category term='free'/><category term='kansas'/><category term='Universe'/><category term='neva'/><category term='abortion'/><category term='soviet'/><category term='ravenglass'/><category term='crazy'/><category term='ancapex'/><category term='phone'/><category term='war'/><category term='evolution'/><category term='creationism'/><category term='scientology'/><category term='pro-choice'/><category term='ace'/><category term='prokofy'/><category term='wtc'/><category term='austrian economics'/><category term='second life'/><category term='Moon'/><category term='Mike Lorrey'/><category term='starbucks'/><category term='iraq'/><category term='catherine'/><category term='murder'/><category term='bnt'/><category term='peter joseph'/><category term='peter joseph merola'/><category term='voiceofreason467'/><category term='The venus project'/><category term='911 truth'/><category term='rentals'/><category term='bigot'/><category term='9/11'/><category term='world trade center'/><category term='tom'/><category term='theory'/><category term='tiller'/><category term='stalinism'/><category term='moonies'/><category term='assholes'/><category term='has'/><category term='bible'/><category term='idiot'/><category term='pro-life'/><category term='Emperor'/><category term='conspiracy'/><category term='second'/><category term='prokofy neva'/><category term='liberarian'/><category term='state'/><category term='fitzpatrick'/><category term='life'/><category term='intLibber Brautigan'/><category term='bnt holdings'/><category term='uwc'/><category term='wtc7'/><category term='anonymous'/><category term='Sun'/><category term='building 7'/><category term='church'/><category term='Myung'/><category term='george'/><category term='twitter'/><category term='communist'/><category term='anarchocaptialism'/><category term='Christianity'/><category term='cult'/><category term='the zeitgeist movement'/><category term='Reverend'/><category term='racist'/><category term='project'/><category term='california'/><category term='marxist'/><category term='911'/><category term='google'/><title type='text'>The Jim Jesus Blog</title><subtitle type='html'>A blog about thought reform groups, general skepticism, voluntarism, Austrian economics and atheism.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>113</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-2002807809592742937</id><published>2012-02-03T03:09:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2012-02-03T03:11:36.475-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Las Vegas Review: The Penn &amp; Teller (Rio All-Suite Hotel &amp; Casino)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;So I had plans to go see this show with one of my good friends who moved out here 6 years ago who went with me to the BeatleShow!, unfortunately he couldn't make it so I decided to just go it alone and find someone to give the ticket away to at the hotel. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After asking a few people I saw alone standing in line I managed to find someone alone that wanted a ticket. Turned out it was Benjy Sarlin from Talking Point Memo. Which was weird, and cool. I guess. At least I had someone to talk politics with before the show. It was also great because of an error, I got to sit in the 11th row back. Great fuckin' seats! All Penn and Teller wanted in return was some of my fresh blood. Fair deal!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So before the show Penn (stand up bass) and Mike Jones (piano) were jamming out on some jazz as we inspected a large wooden box with wheels on 2 sides and sign an envelope on stage. We were assured that we wouldn't want to miss out on such an opportunity many times tongue in cheek by Mike. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The show starts abruptly when one of the stage hands comes out to turn the box on it's back wheels and Teller popped out and Penn stepped out at the same time to welcome us to the show. Pretty jaw dropping that such a great trick would of been such a small insignificant part of the show, but it's cake walk compared to what came next. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I'm not going to detail every trick in the show, because that would be just... annoying. I will, however, tell you about some of the highlights of the show. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One involved magically getting a cell phone into a fish and a Criss Angel jab. I thought insulting Criss Angel was my schtick, apparently not anymore. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No Penn &amp;amp; Teller performance would be complete without a complete deconstruction of spiritualism. Penn showed how those who talk to the dead were doing simple cold reading, hot reading and other slight of hand to achieve their illusions but in a was that's not only morally reprehensible. So instead of talking to the audience member's dead families, he predicted random jokes out of a stack of joke books. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What would a P&amp;amp;T show be without an explanation of their libertarian views with some stage magic involving a metal detector. Now before I go and spoil the whole show I'll just talk about 3 more. There was 3 illusions that were beyond belief all in their own ways. I have to say, I'm a big magic fan. I have seen a lot of stage magic in my life and these 3 were the best tricks I have ever seen in my life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first was Teller and his pet ball. He silently showed how his simple pet bouncy ball can do some great tricks involving a hoop. Teller is an amazing illusionist and performer and he can do it all without saying a single word. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second was another Teller illusion. Probably his most known performance. It's called 'shadows.' This is a very moving and emotional illusion. There's no words to describe how this effect works on you. It's just Teller, a knife, a rose stem in a vase, a light and a piece of paper that the shadow lands onto. There's not a single word in the english language to describe how great this is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They ended the show with their famous bullet catch. Penn and Teller call 2 people out of the audience who knew their shit about guns. Without crossing a line drew down the center of the stage, they had them sign the cap and shell of the bullet and fired them at each other though a pane of glass and into each others mouth and catching it in their teeth. They then had said audience members verify it was their bullets and that they were in fact fired from the gun. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After the show they rushed to the exit of the theater and did a meet and greet with everyone where they signed autographs and took photos. I got them both to sign the 3 of clubs out of my deck of red fan back Tally-Hos (yes, the ones made in Ohio)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f-xr9gMtQXA/TyuhTxT3nuI/AAAAAAAABsQ/nKwaaHpddE4/s1600/2012-02-01+23.13.12.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f-xr9gMtQXA/TyuhTxT3nuI/AAAAAAAABsQ/nKwaaHpddE4/s640/2012-02-01+23.13.12.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This show was nothing short of amazing. They kept it lively, moving and funny the entire show. 11 out of 10. If you come to Vegas, put this on your itinerary. Even if you don't like magic, this is still something you want to see. The tickets are a bit pricy, 75 bucks for nose bleeds but well worth it. Penn and Teller are redefining Vegas magic and you'd be a fool not to experience it yourself. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-2002807809592742937?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/2002807809592742937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/02/penn-teller-rio-all-suite-hotel-and.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/2002807809592742937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/2002807809592742937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/02/penn-teller-rio-all-suite-hotel-and.html' title='Las Vegas Review: The Penn &amp; Teller (Rio All-Suite Hotel &amp; Casino)'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f-xr9gMtQXA/TyuhTxT3nuI/AAAAAAAABsQ/nKwaaHpddE4/s72-c/2012-02-01+23.13.12.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-8183527997227526345</id><published>2012-01-31T13:04:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-02-02T16:28:56.748-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Las Vegas Review: BeatleShow! (Planet Hollywood)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;So I saw my first show in Vegas as an adult last night. I was given 2 free tickets for donating blood along with 2 more tickets to go see Penn &amp;amp; Teller (which I am planning to see tonight.) I'm a Beatles fan, so why not go see this, right? We got there and the house wasn't packed. So our General Seating tickets magically turned into VIP seats after we entered the&amp;nbsp;theater.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The show is&amp;nbsp;basically&amp;nbsp;a Fab Four style tribute band to The Beatles complete with&amp;nbsp;wardrobe&amp;nbsp;changes. The show started off with an Ed Sullivan impersonator introducing the Beatles with some cheesy jokes. The Red&amp;nbsp;curtain&amp;nbsp;pulls back and out come the&amp;nbsp;Beatles&amp;nbsp;in the classic suit and ties playing the typical set list from the show.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first thing we noticed was The Paul is right handed, 40 years old, caked with makeup and just doesn't sound right at all. He was a poor Paul indeed. However Harrison and Ringo were good enough for the imagination. John was pretty close, even as far as singing goes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first set wan't too bad. The mid song jokes were terrible. We kept telling&amp;nbsp;each other&amp;nbsp;that they just need to shut up and play.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Half way&amp;nbsp;though&amp;nbsp;the first set a couple of go-go dancers came out. They weren't the hottest chicks in the world, but probably the hottest chicks in the&amp;nbsp;theater. About that time re realized that most of the audience was 50 and older and some of them were trying to dance. Reminded me of some of the&amp;nbsp;activity&amp;nbsp;times during my job at the convalescent home to be&amp;nbsp;perfectly&amp;nbsp;honest. Should of been expected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ed Sullivan came out to make a few lame pot brownie jokes then Paul came out to sing 'Yesterday' in the back of the room. So we all had to turn to look behind us or look at the poor quality projector and screen at center stage. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul sank into the floor and in came one of the most painful moments in Vegas show history next to a Criss Angel show came when an Austin Powers impersonator (It was the Ed Sullivan impersonator) came out. This is never good. Austin Powers impersonations are ALWAYS terrible no matter how spot on it is. This was no better. After that dreadful moment, the screen fell again to show us and old video of old&amp;nbsp;British&amp;nbsp;people singing Beatles songs. If I didn't know the Sgt. Pepper stuff was coming next, I would of left then.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They came out and played a few songs from Sgt. Pepper, not not one song from Magical Mystery Tour! Not even I am the Walrus or All You Need is Love. Even then the set list was very short. But they did do a great Sgt. Pepper Reprise/A Day in the Life combo that did make up for no Magical Mystery Tour songs. John left while the other members plays a couple of Paul songs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then the&amp;nbsp;curtain&amp;nbsp;drew again and (thank God) Austin Powers didn't come back. Instead we got to see a minute of 1980 football before being&amp;nbsp;interrupted&amp;nbsp;by a news report that John had been shot and killed. Then he came out playing Imagine. Which was almost tear jerkingly good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then the other Beatles came out in their later years clothes and wrapped up the show. Nothing terrible except for While My Guitar Gently Weeps that was atrocious. We found out why they didn't let Harrison sing for the&amp;nbsp;beginning&amp;nbsp;of the set and the guitar playing was terrible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All in all it wasn't terribly bad, but it wasn't anything great. Wouldn't of bought tickets, nor will I. If I get free tickets I might try to pass them off to someone who may enjoy it more than I. Namely&amp;nbsp;my&amp;nbsp;parents&amp;nbsp;who enjoy these cheesy Vegas shows. Maybe a little Penn &amp;amp; Teller might revive my hope for Vegas shows. Planet Hollywood, if you're reading this: For the love of God, get a new Paul and make John sing While My Guitar Gently Weeps.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-8183527997227526345?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/8183527997227526345/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/las-vegas-review-beatleshow-planet.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8183527997227526345'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8183527997227526345'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/las-vegas-review-beatleshow-planet.html' title='Las Vegas Review: BeatleShow! (Planet Hollywood)'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-5377158931449515932</id><published>2012-01-28T13:51:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-28T23:10:56.932-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Libertarian Party Trojan Horse Candidate: Scott Keller.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not a member of the Libertarian party and haven't been for a few years. Back when I was a member, the only thing I ever seen them do was fight with each other so I just ignored them for the most part and looked for other ways to spread the message. When they nominated Bob Barr, they sent me a letter telling me and asking for a campaign contribution. I took the prepaid envelope and sent back a letter asking them to remove me from their roles permanently because of this. I ignored them much more after that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Something did cross my path a few days ago when &lt;a href="http://muertos.blog.com/2011/06/17/vote-twoofer-in-twelve-a-conspiracy-theorist-runs-for-president/"&gt;blogger Muertos &lt;/a&gt;noticed that presidential candidate Scott Keller decided to drop out of running as an independent and seek the Libertarian nomination for president. I thought this was odd considering how much effort he has made to brush off libertarian ideas, now he's embracing them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;“I’m not willing to change stances just to align with a party….I will continue to be a supporter and promoter of a move towards innovative ideas such as the Venus Project and the testing of Resource Based models.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;―Scott Keller&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is important for those who still are active in the LP. by "Resource Based models" he's talking about a Resource Based Economy or Resource Based Economical Model. Most people in the LP are unfamiliar with what that is. Now a lot of libertarians like the idea of a "Resource Based Economy," in fact, who wouldn't? All economies are resource based. It's a totally redundant term, like saying anal butt-sex in the ass.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But to people in The Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement, those words mean something completely different. Their idea for the world's economic system isn't one of laissez-faire, or free market. Not even a regulated or mixed economy. In fact, what they advocate would make your typical socialist Occupy hippy look like a teabagger.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A Resource-Based Economy (or RBE as the kids call it) is a top down constructed socio-economic system in which the vast majority of labor is eliminated in favor of mechanization and automated production of goods. Everything is made and distributed in accordance with what scientifically efficient and ecologically sustainable and money is abolished. People can get food, water, clothing, housing and other goods needed to function without the use of money or trade.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this sounds familiar, it should. This is the end goal of communism. A stateless, classless, moneyless post-scarcity society from each according to his ability to each according to his need. The "originator" of this RBE design is this ban, Jacque Fresco. I use that term loosely because I hardly consider this to be a rational ideology even by communist standards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PIMy0QBSQWo" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(SCATTER BRAIN WARNING: careful watching this, this guy can't stay on topic if you paid him.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What differentiates this system with something like Marx &amp;amp; Engels or Kropotkin &amp;amp; Bakunin is instead of having proposed systems of rational distributions of goods, Fresco has toy models. Why offer a solution or even propose one when you can just lay the burden of responsibility on the feet of "Science and technology will figure it out" and play with your toys?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact most of The Venus Project material is one of 2 things, listening to this old fart go on scatter brained tangents or watching his "World of Tomorrow" demonstrations that have little to do with the economic system, and mostly serve as a distraction to the fact it has any real substance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now this begs the question: Why would a neo-Marxist Technocrat run for president in a party that is mostly based on free-market ideas? The answer is simple; infiltration and disruption.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2010 a internet radio talk show host by the name of VTV (Neil Kiernan Stephenson) who's show V-Radio is about The Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project joined the Boston Tea Party and did take over. He got a bunch of his listeners and others from The Zeitgeist Movement forums to come on to his side and vote for him as the leader of the group to transform it from the libertarian leaning group to another mouthpiece for The Zeitgeist Movement. A Google search for "vtv site:bostontea.us" will yield the entire messy drama that unfolded. Since then the Boston Tea Party website is mostly abandoned after the whole fiasco.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look, the LP has it's problems. Infighting has gotten so bad that most people don't even want to deal with it anymore. Myself included. If you think the infighting is bad now, wait until the Zeitards and Venusians come to stir the pot with Scott Keller, and they will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scott Keller talking to The Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project about a RBE:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RxRBRIHxKiM" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-5377158931449515932?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/5377158931449515932/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/libertarian-party-trojan-horse.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5377158931449515932'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5377158931449515932'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/libertarian-party-trojan-horse.html' title='Libertarian Party Trojan Horse Candidate: Scott Keller.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/PIMy0QBSQWo/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-4139838200375711450</id><published>2012-01-17T00:51:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-17T00:51:15.134-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Doug "The Annihilator" Mallette Isn't a Diamond in the Rough</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;A lot of people on both sides of the TZM/TVP/RBE/RBEM debate think that Doug Mallette is one of the more non-conspiratorial&amp;nbsp;members of TZM/TVP. He's not.&amp;nbsp;Meurtos from The Skeptic Project (not to be confused with YouTube user RonaldDeLosMeurtos) fell for this trap and finally noticed today. Just because he worked with NASA or never really mentions conspiracies doesn't mean he's not a nut. He is and always has been.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shortly after the orgy of articles exposing him (which are all translated and&amp;nbsp;reposted&amp;nbsp;on my blog) he's shown his true nut colors again. Accusing James Kush, Muertos, The Swedish Press, and myself as "paid disinformation agents." Meaning he believes the government and/or this paranoid fantasy the NWO pays us money to speak out against TZM/TVP.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://i40.tinypic.com/jikqh2.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="108" src="http://i40.tinypic.com/jikqh2.png" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Patently absurd and laughable at best.&amp;nbsp;The anti-Zeitgeisters I talk to have their own reasons for critiquing the groups and do not get paid for what they do. I oppose it on both economic grounds and the fact that I think conspiracy theories are retarded. Either way, the fact that I said this is only more proof to the conspiracy nutters that I am a disinfo agent. If they want to think that, fine. Let them sit in their corner of the internet rocking back and forth&amp;nbsp;screeching&amp;nbsp;about the gubermint poisoning the air. I could give a shit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After the quote of him saying we should eradicate/annihilate anyone who attacks a farming facility, he issued an 'apology.' He didn't&amp;nbsp;apologize&amp;nbsp;for what he said, just how he said it. He also deleted it a month later which really shows he wasn't sorry about what he said, just he was sorry he got caught looking like a dick and just wanted to sweep it under the rug.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However if you watch this video @ 5:33 he accused the people who exposed him as a little tyrant of being psychotic NWO agenda 22 agents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/k-ZFBZ4ccdI" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;He's also very stupid. Even after accusing us of being paid disinformation agents of the gubermint, he thinks he can use the gubermint courts to sue gubermint agents in their sekkret gubermit NWO plot. There's simply not enough tinfoil in a tinfoil abundant RBE to keep this nut at bay. So have fun with your "automated" toy pot garden used to grow expensive&amp;nbsp;tomatoes and crying about chemtrails, but if you do want to sue me I'll contact my attorney at LAWL.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-4139838200375711450?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/4139838200375711450/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-isnt-diamond.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4139838200375711450'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4139838200375711450'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-isnt-diamond.html' title='Doug &quot;The Annihilator&quot; Mallette Isn&apos;t a Diamond in the Rough'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i40.tinypic.com/jikqh2_th.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1838857674847925557</id><published>2012-01-16T13:59:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-16T13:59:31.813-06:00</updated><title type='text'>World Class 2015 Cancels Mallette Lectures and Issues Apology.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;a href="http://varldsklassprojektteamet.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/douglas-malettes-forelasningar-stalls-in/"&gt;http://varldsklassprojektteamet.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/douglas-malettes-forelasningar-stalls-in/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(rough translation)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Douglas Ground lectures set&lt;br /&gt;Posted on January 16, 2012&lt;br /&gt;In the light of information obtained during the last days, we have decided to cancel our participation in Douglas Ground lectures in Örnsköldsvik. World Class 2015 can never support anti-democratic views that incite violence or other unlawful acts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We hope that the debate that has followed this effort does not discourage people to lift up discussions or engage in Örnsköldsvik development. Social development is driven largely by creating dynamic open environments where many have their say. On the journey we continue in Örnsköldsvik. World Class 2015 will therefore continue to encourage all who want to contribute to meeting the challenges that face Ornskoldsvik.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1838857674847925557?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/1838857674847925557/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/world-class-2015-cancels-mallette.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1838857674847925557'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1838857674847925557'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/world-class-2015-cancels-mallette.html' title='World Class 2015 Cancels Mallette Lectures and Issues Apology.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-3525127881425928981</id><published>2012-01-16T13:11:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-16T14:39:57.577-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Doug "The Annihilator" Mallette Exposed Pt. 3</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Exposed yet again by the same paper:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Updated to a better translation thanks to &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#!/Tomasizaias"&gt;Tomas Izaias Englund&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; display: inline; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 14px; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mallette lecture is canceled&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=""&gt;&lt;b&gt;Now highlights the Green Party Douglas Mallette from his lecture program after new revelations about the controversial aerospace engineer. Listen for yourself.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nib_C58nFHg" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mallette lectures has been cancled&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Green Party has decided to cancel Douglas Mallette lectures. New information about the controversial aerospace engineer forced the politicians to change their minds.&lt;br /&gt;"The statements Mallette has made .. we can not accept such views," says Jakob Norstedt-Moberg, spokesperson.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This weekend a number of youtube-videos was posted. OA (the name of the paper) disclosure about the space engineer Douglas Mallette got some spread in social media.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A number of American bloggers sat on some damning dark details about Mallettes past.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now this information was brought to light.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It involves a number of statements made by Mallette in an interview from last year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the interview, Mallette uses a few drastic expressions: that opponents must be "crushed" and that some people are a "waste of skin".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He said that he would "annihilate" and "eliminate" people who go against him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The harshness of these statements got the Green Party to react.&lt;br /&gt;"We felt that we just could not accept this. It's serious enough to even be talking in such kind of terms. Therefore, we choose to say "no" to him. Mallette is no longer welcome here says Jakob Norstedt-Moberg, spokesperson.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It should be said, that Douglas Mallette at a number of occasions stated that he regrets his former statements. Also one of his apology-films were spread this weekend.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the current situation, this is his statements.&lt;br /&gt;"Of course, I regret saying those things. There were words said in affect. I do not advocate violence", says Douglas Mallette.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even schools that have invited Douglas Mallette to speak, starting to hesitate after OA:s (name of the paper) disclosure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Tomorrow we teachers will gather and discuss this situation, says Hans Jonsson, the teachers representative, Nola-school.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-3525127881425928981?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/3525127881425928981/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-exposed-pt-3.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/3525127881425928981'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/3525127881425928981'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-exposed-pt-3.html' title='Doug &quot;The Annihilator&quot; Mallette Exposed Pt. 3'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/nib_C58nFHg/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-6023179546604031802</id><published>2012-01-16T12:46:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-16T12:55:38.634-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Doug "The Annihilator" Mallette Exposed Pt. 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-exposed.html"&gt;Part1&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;The same paper did further investigations into this guy and found more:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://allehanda.se/start/ornskoldsvik/1.4287637--det-tyder-pa-bristande-kunskap-"&gt;http://allehanda.se/start/ornskoldsvik/1.4287637--det-tyder-pa-bristande-kunskap-&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(rough translation)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Contested speakers are flown here - for tax money&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;Örnsköldsvik thought they invited an engineer who worked for NASA. But they got something else entirely.&lt;/b&gt;For weeks the American lands Douglas Mallette in Örnsköldsvik. The municipal development projects World Class in 2015, taking him here from Florida and pay for his stay. World-class online marketing the Mallette as NASA engineer. The idea is that Mallette during the week to give lectures in schools, public and business community. But there is a big problem. Mallette has never worked for NASA. His possible links to the U.S. space authority is that he worked for Boeing, which in turn has had construction contracts in connection with the now-completed space program. However, Mallette one of the poster child for the so-called Zeitgeist Movement. The foundation of the movement are the films of the same name. Of critics described the movement's message that a healthy mix of conspiracy theories. The most famous Zeitgeistidén is that the U.S. government either on its own did the September 11 attack, or at least knew and did not stop the terrorist attack. If the secret societies that control the world. In the case of Douglas Mallette is mostly about space. He is among other things, convinced that human development can be explained by the fact that aliens have been involved with "behind the scenes". He's great dream is to see a space base on the moon. Mallette's most famous performance is the film Awakening (Awakening) that he posted on Youtube. The Awakening shown pictures of starving children while Mallette spend the text of everything he is against: banks, money, capitalism and consumerism. In addition to bring in a contested speaker, market municipality in the coming activities as a direct collaboration with a political party. "The Green Party Örnsköldsvik and Zeitgeist Scandinavia together with the municipality of Örnsköldsvik have the honor to present a lecture event in the world!" - It's just a pity that we have gone out with errors. It should not be seen as we are doing a joint event with the Green Party. We will correct this, says Vanya Östman, Project Manager, World Class 2015th The Green Party has continued to disseminate information and the decision to fly here from Florida Mallette maintained. - World class role in this is only that we have supported a young engaged guy who came to us and wanted help to bring in a lecturer. We have done this, nothing more. - Just because he comes here and tells you do not buy everything you say. Those who now come and listen to the lectures may practice their critical thinking, says Vanya Östman. In addition, managers already sold Mallette to Processum. According to the municipality will Mallette meet the company's "key people". - What I learned was that the municipality would take us a NASA engineer. It was what it was cool. If he has not worked for NASA, the question of this even relevant to us. That I must look closely at, says Sören Back, communications manager for Processum.&lt;br /&gt;Tomas Englund Izaias 0660-29 55 34 tomas.englund @ allehanda.se&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the same guy who said TZM should "annihilate" any group of people who attempts to stop their stupid&amp;nbsp;imaginary&amp;nbsp;vertical farms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nib_C58nFHg" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-6023179546604031802?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/6023179546604031802/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-exposed-pt-2.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/6023179546604031802'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/6023179546604031802'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-exposed-pt-2.html' title='Doug &quot;The Annihilator&quot; Mallette Exposed Pt. 2'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/nib_C58nFHg/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1783327053740526582</id><published>2012-01-15T14:00:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-15T14:01:45.711-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Doug "The Annihilator" Mallette Exposed</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;a href="http://allehanda.se/start/ornskoldsvik/1.4287637--det-tyder-pa-bristande-kunskap-"&gt;http://allehanda.se/start/ornskoldsvik/1.4287637--det-tyder-pa-bristande-kunskap-&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Rough translation)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Yesterday was ÖA reveal Örnsköldsvik Municipality mistake . Officials believed they invited an engineer who worked for NASA.&lt;br /&gt;Instead, the American Douglas Mallette.&lt;br /&gt;He was one of the poster child for the so-called Zeitgeist Movement.&lt;br /&gt;The movement will be happy impression that Mallette is some kind of "space experts" that he has been involved in developing space shuttles for NASA.&lt;br /&gt;In their promotional material, the organizers of the visit ended with a number of claims. Among other things, that Mallette "devoted professional life to developing technologies for sustainable ecological systems in space."&lt;br /&gt;It is not true.&lt;br /&gt;But what has the actually Mallette made? Well, the closest he comes is a space that holds a similar position a trainee for the company GeoControl Systems.&lt;br /&gt;For them, Mallette worked on systems for cargo handling, loading and unloading, at the Kennedy Space Center. Warehouse work, if you like.&lt;br /&gt;Before that he worked for the U.S. Navy and later as a salesman. Mallette has negotiated everything from cigarettes to airline tickets and menswear.&lt;br /&gt;To say that Mallette worked with space skyttelprogrammet is stretching the truth.&lt;br /&gt;More doubts that the municipality is spreading also applies Mallette companies Cybernated Farm Systems (CFS).&lt;br /&gt;World-class company describes as "revolutionary" and "high tech".&lt;br /&gt;It's very well done for a one-man company that was started a few months ago, you would think. The company now registered in November 2011.&lt;br /&gt;Pictures from Mallette so-called research facility also says the a lot about CFS.&lt;br /&gt;The facility consists of a small narrow closet on a number square. There Mallette two small frames for vegetables. That's all.&lt;br /&gt;According to Mallette's own data is the development budget in the current situation of the project at just over 35 000. Instead of high technology, this is rather a small hobby project where Mallette trying to cultivate energy-efficient.&lt;br /&gt;Errors such as these have World class helped to spread out. And officials' claims of a direct collaboration with the Green Party has been the politicians to respond.&lt;br /&gt;Liberal Party Gunnar Melin is one of the politicians who are extremely skeptical about how it was handled.&lt;br /&gt;- This seems very strange. Is it bad research or what is going on? And how can the World class at all, think about the idea of ​​a collaboration with a political party in this way, he says and continues:&lt;br /&gt;- This indicates a lack of knowledge and / or poor track of what to do in the context of World Class.&lt;br /&gt;OA has tried to achieve World Class Project Vanya Östman for comment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1783327053740526582?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/1783327053740526582/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-exposed.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1783327053740526582'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1783327053740526582'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2012/01/doug-annihilator-mallette-exposed.html' title='Doug &quot;The Annihilator&quot; Mallette Exposed'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-5586028394091375407</id><published>2011-11-06T09:07:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-06T09:09:40.668-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Why I Won't Support OWS</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;OccupyDC Protesters Use Kids to Blockade Door During Violent&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Scuffle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.mrctv.org/embed/107204" title="MRC TV video player" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Violent OWS Protesters Prevent Woman in Wheelchair From Leaving Event&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/b1K1r_w8u38?hd=1" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rome 'Occupy' protest turns violent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6SnKjgKGNZM" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Vandals at Occupy Oakland&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6Rd0wwI3lwc" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(note the people cheering on the last clip)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sexual Assaults at Occupy Wall Street Explained&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wrohU71S6So" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This only scratches the surface, there's been over 100 documented cases&amp;nbsp;outrageous&amp;nbsp;behavior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/10/28/occupywallstreet-the-rap-sheet-so-far/"&gt;http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/10/28/occupywallstreet-the-rap-sheet-so-far/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Say what you want about Tea Baggers, at least they pick up their trash, don't break shit and rape people.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-5586028394091375407?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/5586028394091375407/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/11/why-i-wont-support-ows.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5586028394091375407'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5586028394091375407'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/11/why-i-wont-support-ows.html' title='Why I Won&apos;t Support OWS'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/b1K1r_w8u38/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-4328195065535190976</id><published>2011-11-02T23:06:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-02T23:28:23.425-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Things are nuts...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;So last night my grandmother passed away in her sleep last night. She was on hospice for good year before she became bed bound a couple of months ago. Last month she suffered a stroke and it &amp;nbsp;was downhill from there with some up days. So things have been a little hectic lately and even more so today and as the week comes to a close. I want to thank everyone who offered their&amp;nbsp;condolences&amp;nbsp;via &lt;a href="http://facebook.com/revjimjesus"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#!/JimJesus"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I'm getting ready for her wake this weekend and after that I have to study, take my state boards and then drive out to my new hometown Las Vegas, Nevada. When I get to Nevada I'll be&amp;nbsp;basically&amp;nbsp;have a cell phone as my primary internet source. Even still I will be spending a lot of time finding work which will be a week or two. (Finding a job in the health care industry is a cakewalk) However, I still will try to manage to blog more than I do now after the move even with these hurdles.&amp;nbsp;My last trip&amp;nbsp;to Vegas had so many ideas racing though my head for articles and videos I wanted to make and since I will be living there it will be living in&amp;nbsp;inspiration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One&amp;nbsp;piece&amp;nbsp;I've been working on for sometime&amp;nbsp;comparing&amp;nbsp;public and private sidewalks and walkways will be competed when I get out there. So keep an eye out here for that!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a side note, I made myself a private &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/revjimjesus"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; for personal things I don't want to share publicly and decided to make my old Facebook public. So if you wanted to add me, go ahead. If you added me and you were one of the internet friends I purged due to privacy&amp;nbsp;concerns, go ahead and re-add me. Also, I'll be posting videos of my trek there and on &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#!/JimJesus"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and my secondary &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/revjimjesus"&gt;YouTube Channel&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks again guys. See you all soon.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1enywhs7vfk" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-4328195065535190976?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/4328195065535190976/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/11/things-are-nuts.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4328195065535190976'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4328195065535190976'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/11/things-are-nuts.html' title='Things are nuts...'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/1enywhs7vfk/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1107362154557629845</id><published>2011-10-19T22:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-05T06:04:02.147-05:00</updated><title type='text'>More Racist Zeitards - IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Updated: He hasn't learned his lesson. See below.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Came across this gem of a Zeitard today:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KcrQXfJxUrg/Tp-NGTWecfI/AAAAAAAABLw/9PMZoGolXcQ/s1600/iam184.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="145" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KcrQXfJxUrg/Tp-NGTWecfI/AAAAAAAABLw/9PMZoGolXcQ/s640/iam184.png" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;So if I disagree with Zeitgeist I jerk off to child porn? LOLWUT? Let's see who this guys is, we'll start with his favorites:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qXfGhtX0sV0/Tp-NYY-wthI/AAAAAAAABL4/ub9zjtxNXqU/s1600/iam18.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="468" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qXfGhtX0sV0/Tp-NYY-wthI/AAAAAAAABL4/ub9zjtxNXqU/s640/iam18.png" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Me thinks this guy is projecting his sick pedo fetish on me. Let's check his recent activity:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--wAMUpdFACE/Tp-NsV8hnlI/AAAAAAAABMA/Rtj-Qt4cIRo/s1600/iam185.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--wAMUpdFACE/Tp-NsV8hnlI/AAAAAAAABMA/Rtj-Qt4cIRo/s640/iam185.png" width="322" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;A pedo AND a racist! NICE! Let's look closer, shall we?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5XyncZJfhAQ/Tp-N_TPHD9I/AAAAAAAABMI/zDwIegIVEf0/s1600/iam182.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="78" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5XyncZJfhAQ/Tp-N_TPHD9I/AAAAAAAABMI/zDwIegIVEf0/s640/iam182.png" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eOJyVzjVRQ0/Tp-N_U1--aI/AAAAAAAABMQ/M9YuT1XLWNE/s1600/iam183.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="52" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eOJyVzjVRQ0/Tp-N_U1--aI/AAAAAAAABMQ/M9YuT1XLWNE/s640/iam183.png" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;This guy makes voiceofretard467 look like MLK jr!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER+nigger+site%3Ayoutube.com"&gt;Google&amp;nbsp;search&amp;nbsp;of his YouTube comments with the keyword "nigger"&lt;/a&gt; finds more than enough of of his racist nonsense. Here's some other gems I found with that search.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #eeeeee; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;At&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=blS1H9eXjGU#" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #4272db; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;0:59&lt;/a&gt;, the fat﻿ black nigger from Afreakahhhhhhh is like, "That was nasty". Ironic considering that her appearance and weight would make her nasty automatically.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #666666; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a class="author " href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #4272db; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;7 months ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #666666; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #eeeeee; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All the white women at back we're all getting wet for this young black mans large and hard dick. They probably all rode him after the show, including Judge Judy, taking﻿ turns on his large pleasure pole.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt; 1 month ago&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #eeeeee; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The Zeitgeist Movement produces quality members, I must say!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Update: He was exposed and now he diabled his channel. Too bad Google got his whole history, happy searching:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER+site%3Ayoutube.com"&gt;http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER+site%3Ayoutube.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about some &lt;a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sUnoqlkJ7lgJ:www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER+IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER+site:youtube.com&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;gl=us#p/f"&gt;Google Cache&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;UPDATE:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's see what our friend has been up to lately. Surely he must of learned his lesson right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=T3Yb3zzIGcE"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=T3Yb3zzIGcE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=thebutterfly252" style="font-size: small;"&gt;@TheButterfly252&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; Hey nigger, the little nigger girl in the video has weaves, something all niggers go and get because they self-hate (racist towards themselves) about their own racial features. I don't blame them though, the nigger features are very disgusting to look at and have no aesthetic properties which is why you very rarely see any good looking nigger﻿ models on the world stage. Also, niggers have lower intelligence on average than all other human groups, just like most of them are poor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER" style="font-size: small;"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is pathetic&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=ztvBK0hb9P4&amp;amp;page=2"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=ztvBK0hb9P4&amp;amp;page=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;It's amazing how hard Beyonce is trying to make herself look white. I know a lot of African American 'women' in USA who﻿ wish so much to be white and have beautiful long straight hair like white girls do and have facial features that are actually attractive to men. Don't get me started on the ugly attitudes that black women are born with.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER" style="font-size: small;"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 3 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=iam18yearsoldandover" style="font-size: small;"&gt;@IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;You are RACIST to talk like that about "black womyn". You must be UGLY period, but YOUR attitude is ugliest!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;amp;Beyonce is not trying so hard to make her self look white, she IS light-skinned and been. Her mother is of French﻿ descent. Dumbass!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/MANAiiA" style="font-size: small;"&gt;MANAiiA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 3 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=iam18yearsoldandover" style="font-size: small;"&gt;@IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; Oh wow, it's amazing how ignorant and racist you are being. Just because they prefer﻿ their hair straight they're suddenly 'trying to be white'? Asians have straight hair.. why is she copying white people and not asians? Okay, white people wants to be tanner and darker, does that mean they're trying to be black or asian?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/reginakezya" style="font-size: small;"&gt;reginakezya&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 3 weeks ago 37 &lt;img src="http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/pixel-vfl3z5WfW.gif" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=reginakezya" style="font-size: small;"&gt;@reginakezya&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; Beyonce is clearly trying to copy White people. Look at the straight hair she is artifically making on her head AND then dying it into a light colour like white people's -﻿ something black people can almost never achieve!!! :D Also, when people tan they aren't trying to look like the colour of shit, they're just after a slight glow "orange" tinge to their skin. They don't want to overcook and look like shit. :DD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER" style="font-size: small;"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=iam18yearsoldandover" style="font-size: small;"&gt;@IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;﻿ Your fucking racist.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/kim101318" style="font-size: small;"&gt;kim101318&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=kim101318" style="font-size: small;"&gt;@kim101318&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; I am just talking real stuff here which was always going to be found offensive by you because you are the target of the unfortunate facts of this world. Kim, a black Nigger woman in a white country, UK, talking to me﻿ on a white invention (computer). We run this world nigger bitch. You going to collect another welfare check that I paid for through my tax? How many children are you going to pop out this month? I know black sheboon love creating more criminal babies. Baboon! Ooga booga&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER" style="font-size: small;"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=iam18yearsoldandover" style="font-size: small;"&gt;@IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; Dont hide behind a screen being racist because if you want to be racist so badly, be racist in public and you will see the kind of﻿ reaction you will get. And im a teenager so i wouldnt be wanting to 'pop out any kids'. All the sluts and pregnant hoes i know these days are white.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/kim101318" style="font-size: small;"&gt;kim101318&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=kim101318" style="font-size: small;"&gt;@kim101318&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; I am racist all the time in public, I make I set let others know how vile the﻿ Nigger beast is. About 80% of Nigger sheboons are unmarried (because they can't get a man) and have babies. True facts! Also, you are in the UK (White country), go back to Afreakahhhhhhh to see your bruddas and sistas and see them all fuck each other without a care in the world, k? Good. Afreakahhhhhh, your homeland, has plenty of AIDS and HIV like Niggers because of their uncontrolled sex behaviour. Freaks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER" style="font-size: small;"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;What's disturbing about this one is that he's talking about minors.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&amp;amp;v=0H99fI-HIxc"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&amp;amp;v=0H99fI-HIxc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This comment has received too many negative votes   &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&amp;amp;v=0H99fI-HIxc#"&gt;hide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imagine a big black﻿ ugly Nigger dick inside that beautiful White pale girl.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This comment has received too many negative votes   &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&amp;amp;v=0H99fI-HIxc#"&gt;hide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=iam18yearsoldandover"&gt;@IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt; Yhur Juss So Racist Its A﻿ Damn Shame. Yhur Goinn To Hell Where Yhu Deserve To Be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ImJussDoinnMe006"&gt;ImJussDoinnMe006&lt;/a&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This comment has received too many negative votes   &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&amp;amp;v=0H99fI-HIxc#"&gt;hide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=imjussdoinnme006"&gt;@ImJussDoinnMe006&lt;/a&gt; There are a lot of ugly Black Nigger ape sheboons who want to see their ugly Black Nigger ape baboon men fuck the life out of petite and tiny, beautiful, blonde, and pale White girl. So that the ugly Black Nigger ape sheboons can finally get out of their insecurities about their ugly facial features, hair and attitude. A lot of ugly Black Nigger ape sheboons will acquire ashy skin in their lifetime and be single with more than one child and no﻿ husband.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER"&gt;IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER&lt;/a&gt; 2 weeks ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1107362154557629845?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/1107362154557629845/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/10/more-racist-zeitards.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1107362154557629845'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1107362154557629845'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/10/more-racist-zeitards.html' title='More Racist Zeitards - IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KcrQXfJxUrg/Tp-NGTWecfI/AAAAAAAABLw/9PMZoGolXcQ/s72-c/iam184.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-3485099023619064370</id><published>2011-10-06T10:39:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-10-06T10:39:29.075-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='peter joseph merola'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theory'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='peter joseph'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The venus project'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the zeitgeist movement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='voiceofreason467'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='soviet'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='zeitgeist'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stalinism'/><title type='text'>My first blog post on James Kush's Blog; VOR467: Racist Shitbag.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/racist-zeitgeist-members-voice-of-racism-467/"&gt;http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/racist-zeitgeist-members-voice-of-racism-467/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-3485099023619064370?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/3485099023619064370/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/10/my-first-blog-post-on-james-kushs-blog.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/3485099023619064370'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/3485099023619064370'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/10/my-first-blog-post-on-james-kushs-blog.html' title='My first blog post on James Kush&apos;s Blog; VOR467: Racist Shitbag.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-2198918809959319465</id><published>2011-10-04T11:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-10-04T11:39:59.434-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The best video anyone has ever made me.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Peter Joseph decided to revive his dying 'movement' by having a free arts festival and only 70-80 people showed up. All the pictures showed it it was a failure, no media outlets picked it up. Not even the fringe media cared. &lt;a href="http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/zeitgeist-media-fail.html"&gt;I did a blog&lt;/a&gt; about this less than a month ago and &lt;a href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/zeitgeist-media-festival-review-2011"&gt;James Kush&lt;/a&gt; reblogged it. One Zeitard got angry I was exposing his group's failure and decided to defend it by lying. He &lt;a href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/zeitgeist-media-festival-review-2011/#comment-1454"&gt;posted a comment on Kush's&lt;/a&gt; blog saying: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;"The LA event was featured over on Hollywood Blvd by the Hollywood Walkway. We had a turn out of over &lt;b&gt;3,500&lt;/b&gt;, it was packed, same thing with the European and the other events during that time."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fast forward today I was talking with some other Zeitard and he butted in by making me this video. Made my morning. Now it's 600. He is either full of shit, OR he couldn't tell the difference between 600 and 3,500 people unless his leader directly tells him. The video shows about 70-80 but he refuses to give up on this lie and shows video evidence of his bullshit. Remember, there were 14 artists and bands and limited green room space so some of the artists were probably walking around in that crowd. We wanted more evidence regarding how many people attended the event and voiceofreason467 delivered the goods. We now know attendance was around roughly 80 people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the level of intelligence you can expect from a lot of The Zeitgeist Movement. If you want to have more laughs, see the YouTube video's comment section. I backed up the ones that were there as of this positing just in case he comes to his senses and deletes the video. I have little hope that this kid will ever admit he was wrong because he hasn't even when I set him up to lie and he lies, then lies about lying and comes up with another lie to replace his old one. This kid is seriously damaged. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mIybwyvuDrY?hd=1" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;NOTE: I am machwon. The person I debating this with was GalinoreGustave2 and the creator of the video is voiceofreason467&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul class="comment-list" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; list-style-image: initial; list-style-position: initial; list-style-type: none; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 5px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;li class="comment author-viewing" data-author-viewing="True" data-author="machwon" data-id="cgLFo-MJzt9GU_H09q75Nua9osr_1IfZJ9LFX4WJj8s" data-score="1" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #fffdd6; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-top: 3px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-container" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;Just for the record:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;"The LA event was featured over on Hollywood Blvd by the Hollywood Walkway. We had a turn out of over 3,500, it was packed, same thing with the European and the other events during that time." - voiceofreason&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;is (dot) gd / MtAZTo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;Now it's 600? I only see 80... 90 tops. Anyways, this video is﻿ featured on my channel. Greatest thing I've seen all week!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="author " href="http://www.youtube.com/user/machwon" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="machwon"&gt;machwon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;32 minutes ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="comment " data-author-viewing="False" data-author="voiceofreason467" data-id="cgLFo-MJzt-eNQMRoV-zNhJ8hEaeer_xNn5_LccUecA" data-score="0" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-top: 3px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-container" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="watch-comment-atlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=machwon" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;@machwon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;"Now it's 600?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;I explained why I got the number wrong and Peter corrected me... you are just being an idiot starting with your conclusion and﻿ working your way backward. But what would I expect from a nonintellectual who follows Anarcho Capitalism (an inherently contradictory ideology), someone who starts off calling everyone who gets something wrong by a mistake a liar, and someone who blindly follows the Austrian School and uses only Austrian sources to critique someone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="author " href="http://www.youtube.com/user/voiceofreason467" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="voiceofreason467"&gt;voiceofreason467&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;26 minutes ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="comment " data-author-viewing="False" data-author="voiceofreason467" data-id="cgLFo-MJzt_xgWaYaAOxzdeKhGIJxUh5Wslha-AKQW8" data-score="0" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-top: 3px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-container" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="watch-comment-atlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=machwon" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;@machwon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Now, considering your dishonesty and your bullshit rhetoric, I have had it up to here with it to be honest. You refuse to consider yourself wrong and start off with any discussion believing the other side is full of shit. You started off your﻿ interaction with me believing I am a liar and thus that has colored your reactions to anything I present. I have shown that you have misrepresented everything I have said from day one and because of it I am done with you... blocked.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="author " href="http://www.youtube.com/user/voiceofreason467" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="voiceofreason467"&gt;voiceofreason467&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;24 minutes ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="comment " data-author-viewing="False" data-author="MisterBoswell" data-id="cgLFo-MJzt9zCzpeGQKyqFzmujWFjoTSYhST80oWqeg" data-score="0" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-top: 3px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-container" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;I thought you guys said you were done with each other.﻿&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="author " href="http://www.youtube.com/user/MisterBoswell" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="MisterBoswell"&gt;MisterBoswell&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;44 minutes ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="comment author-viewing" data-author-viewing="True" data-author="machwon" data-id="cgLFo-MJzt-ajDASvhRDKdOQBB0FTckbBZGNxVsgIUo" data-score="0" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #fffdd6; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-top: 3px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-container" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="watch-comment-atlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=misterboswell" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;@MisterBoswell&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;He's interrupting on a﻿ conversation I was having with Galinore.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="author " href="http://www.youtube.com/user/machwon" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="machwon"&gt;machwon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;42 minutes ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="comment author-viewing" data-author-viewing="True" data-author="machwon" data-id="cgLFo-MJzt_tpg1XcJRvu-Av5LyYpKc6f-ty7kj31hE" data-score="0" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #fffdd6; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-top: 3px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-container" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;Meh maybe I was wrong. I'd say about 80.﻿&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="author " href="http://www.youtube.com/user/machwon" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="machwon"&gt;machwon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;49 minutes ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="comment " data-author-viewing="False" data-author="voiceofreason467" data-id="cgLFo-MJzt-eDb9QQNMOeCBtOSJ2DhmPvBDQOj6xlts" data-score="0" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-top: 3px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-container" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="watch-comment-atlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=machwon" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;@machwon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;"Meh maybe I was wrong. I'd say about 80."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;I see, so you refuse to admit that you were wrong and you can't admit that the LA event housed far more than you want to admit because﻿ you started with the conclusion and are trying to rationalize any evidence away. Nice job, oh and by the way, the line I showed also extends around the corner, I just didn't bother get footage of it because I didn't think I would have to engage in this argument.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 14px; margin-bottom: -2px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -4px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;&lt;a class="author " href="http://www.youtube.com/user/voiceofreason467" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="voiceofreason467"&gt;voiceofreason467&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;30 minutes ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="comment " data-author-viewing="False" data-author="G4Br1ELCLM" data-id="cgLFo-MJzt8I9boCohRJBU73i19i3Kyzln92ZqUaXtY" data-score="0" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #eeeeee; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-top: 3px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-container" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #999999;"&gt;Bingo nights at the﻿ retirement houses are more cheerful and livid than that failure of a show.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; 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text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="G4Br1ELCLM"&gt;G4Br1ELCLM&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="time" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;50 minutes ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="comment-actions comment-actions-absolute" id="comments-actions" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; 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text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Well before Red Square was taken offline, I showed up to the sim as Constantinople Resident. The next day the sim was gone as was&amp;nbsp;Constantinople but Linden Lab did leave me with my Jim Schack account as usual. I got tired of waiting for LL to even look at my ticket for Constantinople. I become fed up with the fact that I spend good money building that AV for LL to take it from me for no reason, so I ended up destroying my building, and canceling my SL account. I have no plans on returning, ever. It is my opinion that Linden Lab is not a good company and I don't wish to continue supporting them or using their service. I am not Jim Kaprov/Derpov/herpaderpove/engineer/whatthefuckever nor do I give a shit if you think I am. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This will be my last post regarding Second Life because I'm not in it nor do I ever plan to be.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/j0LO4m68N7Q?hd=1" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mCFcppykWOQ/ToKYe5V9vaI/AAAAAAAABIs/4z0OVcGtOu8/s1600/mpi_001.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="191" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mCFcppykWOQ/ToKYe5V9vaI/AAAAAAAABIs/4z0OVcGtOu8/s320/mpi_001.png" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rV0tXUfSzx8/ToKYhJ2VHHI/AAAAAAAABIw/soHJEfkQiwY/s1600/mpi_002.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; 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&lt;br /&gt;Thing 1: As you can see I changed the layout of the blog, added a new logo and provided sharing buttons to make it easier to link this blog on Facebook, Twitter and Google+ Tell me what you think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thing 2: Not that I think anyone would buy it, but I designed a Shitegeist Movement shirt just because I was bored and was&amp;nbsp;re-familiarizing&amp;nbsp;myself with Photoshop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 150%; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zazzle.com/the_shitegiest_movement_tshirt-235640040187886715?gl=jimjesus&amp;amp;rf=238692149549694873"&gt;&lt;img alt="The Shitegiest Movement shirt" src="http://rlv.zcache.com/the_shitegiest_movement_tshirt-p235640040187886715z8h47_500.jpg" style="border: 0;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zazzle.com/the_shitegiest_movement_tshirt-235640040187886715?gl=jimjesus&amp;amp;rf=238692149549694873"&gt;The Shitegiest Movement&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href="http://www.zazzle.com/jimjesus*"&gt;jimjesus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-5076227489365248232?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/5076227489365248232/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/new-design-and-new-shirt.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5076227489365248232'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5076227489365248232'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/new-design-and-new-shirt.html' title='New design and new shirt!'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-8923950163895961858</id><published>2011-09-26T02:42:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-09-26T20:13:31.714-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Hovind 2.0: Peter Joseph Quote Mines Keynes to Lie To His Followers.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" trbidi="on"&gt;I'm no Keynesian. However I feel as if I should come to his&amp;nbsp;defense. John Maynard Keynes was wrong about macroeconomics, but he wasn't stupid. At least not stupid enough to buy into one of the biggest fallacies in economics: The Luddite Fallacy. However, you may of heard of it as "technological unemployment."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In case you're still scratching your head, I'll let&amp;nbsp;Henry&amp;nbsp;Hazlitt&amp;nbsp;explain:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Among the most viable of all economic delusions is the belief that machines on net balance create unemployment. Destroyed a thousand times, it has risen a thousand times out of its own ashes as hardy and vigorous as ever. Whenever there is a long-continued mass unemployment, machines get the blame anew. This fallacy is still the basis of many labor union practices. The public tolerates these practices because it either believes at bottom that the unions are right, or is too confused to see just why they are wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The belief that machines cause unemployment, when held with any logical consistency, leads to preposterous conclusions. Not only must we be causing unemployment with every technological improvement we make today, but primitive man must have started causing it with the first efforts he made to save himself from needless toil and sweat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 1.5; margin-bottom: 15px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 15px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 1.5;"&gt;The Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project have a slight twist on this fallacy. In a nutshell instead of enacting policies to prevent&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;technology, we should instead use it to create abundance of&amp;nbsp;essential&amp;nbsp;goods for people to consume freely. Now I know that I'll be getting the typical comments saying THIS IS A STRAWMAN BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T MENTION THIS THIS AND THIS ASPECT OF OUR ARGUMENT! Which is&amp;nbsp;irrelevant&amp;nbsp;since I'm not out to debunk the&amp;nbsp;claim because it's been debunked so many times over the last 200 years, it's hardly worth the effort. I will list some&amp;nbsp;resources&amp;nbsp;at the bottom of the blog in case you haven't heard this myth debunked. I'm just showing how they&amp;nbsp;differ&amp;nbsp;from other economic illiterates. So modern leftists say stop automation, Zeitards say go with it and no one has to work anymore. Got it? Good!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now recently I had the misfortune of watching the leader of The Zeitgeist Movement, Peter Joseph Merola, get grilled by the RT News Network anchor&amp;nbsp;Lauren Lyster when he made a claim I've never heard before at about 3:20-3:37&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XN8Z2FnV6_I" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Many economists"? "Like John Maynard Keynes"? Look, say what you will about the guy, but he's not stupid enough to fall for the Luddite Fallacy. In fact, no major economist from any school of economics agrees with this, aside from some Neo-Keynesians who blame outsourcing but not technology. If there is one thing most economists agree on, is that this is a fallacy. So was Peter lying or just making yet another uneducated comment? We'll see. First let's examine Keynes. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did some digging though some Zeitgeist material and within a few minutes I found what it was they were using to back this up in their "&lt;a href="http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/The%20Zeitgeist%20Movement.pdf"&gt;Activist&amp;nbsp;Orientation&amp;nbsp;Guide&lt;/a&gt;" &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As John Maynard Keynes, in The General Theory of Unemployment, Interest and Money&lt;br /&gt;disdainfully points out:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;”We are being afflicted with a new disease of which some readers may not yet have heard the name, but of which&amp;nbsp;they will hear a great deal in the years to come – namely ‘technological unemployment’. This means unemployment&amp;nbsp;due to our discovery of means of economizing the use of labor outrunning the pace at which we can find new uses&amp;nbsp;for labor.” &lt;/i&gt;-Keynes, John Maynard, The General Theory of Unemployment, Interest and Money, 1931&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interesting, yes? However that quote is not in 'The General Theory of Unemployment, Interest and Money.' In fact there is not book called "The General Theory of Unemployment, Interest and Money." I'm sure some of my economic junkie readers are folding their arms reading that, but let me clarify.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no book titled: 'The General Theory of &lt;b&gt;Unemployment,&lt;/b&gt; Interest and Money.'&amp;nbsp;Keynes treatise was titled 'The General Theory of &lt;b&gt;Employment&lt;/b&gt;, Interest and Money' and it wasn't written in 1931. It was written in 1936 and discusses the Great Depression mostly in the years 1929-1935. This quote was from an essay published in 1930 titled:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.econ.yale.edu/smith/econ116a/keynes1.pdf"&gt;Economic Possibilities for our&amp;nbsp;Grandchildren&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I submit this error was intentional. The reason why is because the very next paragraph shows &lt;i&gt;clearly&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;that Keynes did not&amp;nbsp;hold this to be accurate. This is a deliberate quote mine, there's no way around it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;For the moment the very rapidity of these changes is hurting us and bringing difficult problems to solve. Those countries are suffering relatively which are not in the vanguard of progress. &lt;i&gt;We are being afflicted with a new disease of which some readers may not yet have heard the name, but of which they will hear a great deal in the years to come – namely, technological unemployment. This means unemployment due to our discovery of means of economising the use of labour outrunning the pace at which we can find new uses for labour.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;But this is only a temporary phase of maladjustment.&lt;/b&gt; All this means in the long run that mankind is solving its economic problem.&lt;b&gt; I would predict that the standard of life in progressive countries one hundred years hence will be between four and eight times as high as it is to-day.&lt;/b&gt; There would be nothing surprising in this even in the light of our present knowledge. It would not be foolish to contemplate the possibility of afar greater progress still.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There you have it, all pink and naked. Peter Joseph is the new Kent Hovind. He pretends to have &lt;a href="http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/forum/207/doctor-peter-joseph-wtf/"&gt;credentials&lt;/a&gt;, he quote mines, has a &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JW_oWuyrxE"&gt;double standard on copyrigh&lt;/a&gt;t, and holds to a &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lGfurK2XKs"&gt;unscientific worldview&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which is not scientific at all. We already know he thinks you don't have to &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=530806696524042736"&gt;pay income tax&lt;/a&gt;, so we'll wait for the IRS to bust him so we can have 2 fake Doctors in one cell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why technological unemployment is crap:&lt;br /&gt;EagleEye1975 on Eeconomics In One Lesson Chapter 7. &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPP4Ar6I5II"&gt;Part 1&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ7FIDM-oyU"&gt;Part 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://cafehayek.com/2011/06/open-letter-to-barack-obama.html"&gt;Open Letter to Barack Obama&lt;/a&gt; by&amp;nbsp;Don Boudreaux&lt;br /&gt;Robert Murphy ph.D on &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLfGSm_in20"&gt;The Curse of Machinery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This wouldn't be the first time Peter Joseph took an economist out of context. In Zeitgeist: Moving Forward Peter Joseph intentionally quote mines Milton Friedman to make him look like a heartless asshole who wants the electric company to be allowed to kill people. See the first minute or so of this video:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/og8FA1xtC34" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the entire clip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XjUvlKJYue8" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks to &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#!/justintempler"&gt;justintempler&lt;/a&gt; for reminding me of this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-8923950163895961858?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/8923950163895961858/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/peter-joseph-quote-mines-keynes-to-lie.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8923950163895961858'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8923950163895961858'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/peter-joseph-quote-mines-keynes-to-lie.html' title='Hovind 2.0: Peter Joseph Quote Mines Keynes to Lie To His Followers.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/XN8Z2FnV6_I/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-629197114041565393</id><published>2011-09-13T16:39:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-09-13T16:39:49.269-05:00</updated><title type='text'>VOR467 Literacy Fail</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I got a comment on my last blog. Kind of... sort of. It was responding to my blog. Instead of posting it on my blog, he chickened out and posted it on a &lt;a href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/zeitgeist-media-festival-review-2011"&gt;blog linking to it&lt;/a&gt;. I've already responded to it there but I'll save you the trouble and just repost it here. It gives you an idea of the&amp;nbsp;intellectual&amp;nbsp;sloth that goes into following a movement like TZM and sticking with it long after it's dead and the corpse is rotting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #0a0920; color: #d4e7f7; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-body" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #002a53; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-top-color: rgb(0, 75, 141); border-top-style: solid; border-top-width: 3px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-width: 480px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 10px;"&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Let me see here, everyone in the Movement knows about it, my own chapter in Sacramento went to the Festival to do exclusive interviews along with CNN and DemocracyNOW, along with PFTAW, Skeptics Magazine and some of the ViP’s I talked to were from the Richard Dawkins Foundation. I spoke with one of the founders and he said that everyone is in support. The LA event was featured over on Hollywood Blvd by the Hollywood Walkway. We had a turn out of over 3,500, it was packed, same thing with the European and the other events during that time. 40 events and of them they all sold out. The one’s your referencing in the video wasn’t a supported event, so some failed while other’s prospered? Why don’t you show media Coverage of every 40 Official event or does that not help your case in propaganda? By the way, Peter does not believe his critics are apart of some massive conspiracy. He is referring to nut cases that are conspiracy theorists to latch on to anything as a disregard for the truth that is not lying, it’s a subconscious cultural reaction against that which they see threatening. That’s what he refers to as the Circus. The Circus is essentially a cultural anthropological classification. I mean read the trial of Socrates, the Athenians were portrayed as the Circus in Rome. You sir are as usual engage in bullshit, and by bullshit I mean H.G. Frankfurt’s book ”On Bullshit.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="reply" style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a class="comment-reply-link" href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/zeitgeist-media-festival-review-2011/?replytocom=1454#respond" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="comment-author vcard" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-image: url(http://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/andrea/images/arrow.gif); background-origin: initial; background-position: 12px 0px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; color: #4e8abe; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 30px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-width: 250px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 12px;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="avatar avatar-40 grav-hashed grav-hijack" height="40" id="grav-0b71f5e6e287c0e76a7ffe4606a642bc-0" src="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0b71f5e6e287c0e76a7ffe4606a642bc?s=40&amp;amp;d=monsterid&amp;amp;r=PG" style="float: left; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 12px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" width="40" /&gt;&lt;cite class="fn" style="display: block; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a class="url" href="http://voiceofreason467.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;voiceofreason467&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;div class="comment-meta commentmetadata" style="color: #4e8abe; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/zeitgeist-media-festival-review-2011/#comment-1454" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;September 13, 2011 at 8:16 pm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #0a0920;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-body" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #002a53; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-top-color: rgb(0, 75, 141); border-top-style: solid; border-top-width: 3px; color: #d4e7f7; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-width: 80%; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 10px;"&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;News outlets regularly send out reporters to various functions and rarely ever publish what they see unless it’s worth reporting. If your argument is to counter my claim that in fact it was covered, let me take a moment to debunk it:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;CNN:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/search/?query=Zeitgeist&amp;amp;primaryType=mixed&amp;amp;sortBy=date&amp;amp;intl=false" rel="nofollow" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;http://www.cnn.com/search/?query=Zeitgeist&amp;amp;primaryType=mixed&amp;amp;sortBy=date&amp;amp;intl=false&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;DemocracyNOW:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.democracynow.org/search?query=zeitgeist&amp;amp;commit=Search" rel="nofollow" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;http://www.democracynow.org/search?query=zeitgeist&amp;amp;commit=Search&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;PFTAW:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.pfaw.org/search/node/zeitgeist" rel="nofollow" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;http://www.pfaw.org/search/node/zeitgeist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;Skeptics Magazine: [NULL] Granted it’s a quarterly publication. Which I might add did a scathing critique on Parts 1 and 2 of Zeitgeist&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;RDF: No Results (can’t link a search on that site)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;I’ve lived in Hollywood for a year. Lots of things happen on Hollywood Blvd. but that doesn’t entail it being worth coverage.&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;If 3,500 people showed up to your event, please kindly provide us with evidence. My claim isn’t that no one was in Sacremento, it was that I can’t find shit out about it. Same with Europe. Where’s the beef?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;“The one’s your referencing in the video wasn’t a supported event, so some failed while other’s prospered?” What one? If you say India, so help me I will scoop my own brain out with a spoon. I’d do it because I’d loose all faith in humanity. You can’t possibly be that stupid to believe that wasn’t a joke. As far as others prospering… show me! I haven’t seen it. As far as the internet is concerned, they were all small or didn’t exist. I do find it hard to believe 3,500 people showed up to an event and no one bothered to tweet, blog, post, or record it with pictures or video. Also you only use apostrophes for the letter S when it indicates possession and never for pluralization. ex: ‘The only ones that are were The One’s band groupies”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;“Why don’t you show media Coverage of every 40 Official event or does that not help your case in propaganda? ” WHERE? Why won’t YOU link it or will it not serve your case?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;” By the way, Peter does not believe his critics are apart of some massive conspiracy. He is referring to nut cases that are conspiracy theorists to latch on to anything as a disregard for the truth that is not lying, it’s a subconscious cultural reaction against that which they see threatening.” Perhaps you missed that radio address and the forum post. So I’ll just quote it:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;“Keep moving forward and stop paying attention to these trolls. Remember, they have a job to do and will seek anything to exploit. So the more you all talk about it, the more they get paid and have to run with. (yes, I have inside info that the major trolls are paid to do what they do… which explains why they are able to blog everyday, monitoring almost everything from this Forum to our Facebook pages to Youtube. It is nothing new. Just watch. Every word I say here will end up twisted on one of the blogs. Timing tests have been run by a few of us to see how fast these guys can catch things that are posted and removed and they seem to be working almost in real time… meaning there are likely many of them working in shifts, hiding behind one name/blog.)…the original thread noted should not have been deleted- it should have been addressed and corrected.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;amp;func=view&amp;amp;catid=60&amp;amp;id=351623&amp;amp;limit=20&amp;amp;limitstart=20&amp;amp;Itemid=100114&amp;amp;lang=en#352000" rel="nofollow" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;amp;func=view&amp;amp;catid=60&amp;amp;id=351623&amp;amp;limit=20&amp;amp;limitstart=20&amp;amp;Itemid=100114&amp;amp;lang=en#352000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;“You sir are as usual engage in bullshit, and by bullshit I mean H.G. Frankfurt’s book ”On Bullshit.””&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;The only one engaging in BS is you. You’ve managed to refute nothing I said. You misrepresented what I said and even then you don’t have anything to back up the refutations of that. I also think it’s funny you didn’t have the balls to post this on my site, you posted it here instead. Why? Did you think I wouldn’t notice it?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 7px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;The TL;DR version: PICS OR IT DIDN’T HAPPEN&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="reply" style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a class="comment-reply-link" href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/zeitgeist-media-festival-review-2011/?replytocom=1455#respond" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="comment-author vcard" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 12px 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 30px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-width: 250px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #4e8abe; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="avatar avatar-40 grav-hashed grav-hijack" height="40" id="grav-d0533d723a4548667bb658365d054fbf-1" src="http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d0533d723a4548667bb658365d054fbf?s=40&amp;amp;d=monsterid&amp;amp;r=PG" style="float: left; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 12px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" width="40" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;cite class="fn" style="color: #4e8abe; display: block; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;internetjimjesus&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;div class="comment-meta commentmetadata" style="color: #4e8abe; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/zeitgeist-media-festival-review-2011/#comment-1455" style="color: #87b2d8; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;September 13, 2011 at 9:16 pm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="comment-meta commentmetadata" style="color: #4e8abe; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-629197114041565393?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/629197114041565393/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/vor467-literacy-fail.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/629197114041565393'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/629197114041565393'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/vor467-literacy-fail.html' title='VOR467 Literacy Fail'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-4726161916691125813</id><published>2011-09-12T22:18:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-10-04T19:51:53.626-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Zeitgeist Media Fail</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;UPDATED&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Oct. 4, 2011&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those of you who know anything about The Zeitgeist Movement, I'm sure you've heard them annoyingly promoting their&amp;nbsp;latest&amp;nbsp;idea of pushing their crackpot ideas on the world "The Zeitgeist Media Festival." The idea was to plan an event with artists and speakers and show films in order to promote the&amp;nbsp;concept&amp;nbsp;of the redundantly named "Resource Based Economy." They planned to have events world wide but only funded only a few. If not a few than most&amp;nbsp;definitely&amp;nbsp;the one in Los Angeles, CA. The date was set on September 11, 2011 the 10 year anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York, Washington, D.C. and&amp;nbsp;Pennsylvania (They're not a conspiracy theory movement, by the way. Wink, wink)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now earlier this year, many of those most vocal against TZM noticed quite the fall in support in 2011's Z-Day as opposed to their 2010 events. While the size of the London event was significantly larger, mostly due the the fact that it was the headline event where Peter Joseph Merola, Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows were set to speak, events around the world were fewer with less people attending. It showed a&amp;nbsp;significant&amp;nbsp;decline in&amp;nbsp;interest&amp;nbsp;in the movement as a whole as even Alexa traffic ratings showed a tapering off even lower than pre-Zeitgeist: Moving Forward levels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the drop of&amp;nbsp;interest&amp;nbsp;only as marginal as the time before, this would make for a very dry blog entry. Rest assured, it only gets better considering you're not a Zeitard. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While we expected some turn out to the 1st Annual (which is stupid, nothing is annual it's first time) Zeitgeist Media Festival, I personally was shocked at the level of failure of this event. Merola spent a lot of time organizing and promoting this and as little information as we've been able to gather, around only 100 people (which is a liberal estimate) attended the main event in Los Angeles. New York was as dismal, as the only pictures we could find&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150309583054720.348894.206809309719&amp;amp;type=1"&gt;purposely&amp;nbsp;avoided the crowd&lt;/a&gt;. London was a joke with probably around &lt;a href="http://youtu.be/80AjgK1_lN8?t=1m33s"&gt;20-30 people&lt;/a&gt; attending. Germany was hardly a media anything, but rather a &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdb7umdlZHI&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded"&gt;10 person picnic&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As of September 12th, 9:45 PM CDT there is currently NO coverage mentioned on Google News. I mean NONE. No mainstream or fringe media. Not even the&amp;nbsp;almighty&amp;nbsp;RussiaToday which pimps their garbage gave a shit. I can't find any blogs covering the events aside from &lt;a href="http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/"&gt;James Kush&lt;/a&gt; outlining it's failure to attract anyone. This alone is pathetic, but could it get worse? Well, when asking this question about The Zeitgeist Movement, the answer is usually always YES!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;amp;func=view&amp;amp;catid=229&amp;amp;id=343700&amp;amp;Itemid=100114&amp;amp;lang=en"&gt;The&amp;nbsp;Official&amp;nbsp;TZMF Thread on the Official TZM Fourms&lt;/a&gt; had NO coverage aside from asking where to view it on the internet. V-Radio has made NO mention of it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://tzmlaca.org/main/summary"&gt;The Zeitgeist Los Angeles Chapter&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;makes NO mention of it after the&amp;nbsp;announcement&amp;nbsp;as the same for the whole &lt;a href="http://zmca.org/"&gt;State of California&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://tzmsacramento.groupsite.com/main/summary"&gt;Sacremento&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://zeitgeist-ny.com/"&gt;New York&lt;/a&gt; or even &lt;a href="http://www.thezeitgeistmovementuk.com/"&gt;United Kingdom&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://tzmlondon.com/"&gt;London&lt;/a&gt;! In fact as I browse around looking for something to show as an exception on this blog, I simply can not find a single Zeitgeist blog, chapter, or forum talking about this damn thing. It is as if this event never even came to pass.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Correct me if I am wrong, dear Zeitgeisters, but wasn't the point to reach critical mass? How does one get&amp;nbsp;negative&amp;nbsp;interest in offering people free shit for sitting around doing nothing that doesn't involve some kind of get rich scheme? I think I might have the answer. The fact that Peter Joseph Merola called it The Zeitgeist Movement after the first batshit crazy conspiracy&amp;nbsp;theory&amp;nbsp;film and people are waking up to the fact that they were just hanging out with nutjobs. There's not a week that goes by that I don't get some message on Twitter or my YouTube Channel accusing me of being a government agent. In fact, Peter Joseph himself has accused those who criticize The Zeitgeist Movement regularly as being &lt;a href="http://muertos.blog.com/2011/08/23/the-nadir-of-paranoia-zeitgeist-confronts-its-paid-critics/"&gt;paid by a "reputation company" to do this&lt;/a&gt;. Let me state, that as of yet I have never been paid one cent by anyone to do what I do. However if there are those interested, contact me and I will leave you my PayPal address.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joking aside, The Zeitgeist Movement is dead and The Zeitgeist Movement killed it. Their ass-hattery and paranoid delusional fantasies have scared everyone with more than 2 brain cells away. I really don't see a point on paying too much attention to them anymore, so I think this will be one of the last things I'll put effort into as far as&amp;nbsp;criticizing&amp;nbsp;them goes. I might tweet or post something if they do something exceptionally fail again but, for the most part there's bigger fish to fry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For now, I'll leave you a fitting song for TZM. We hardly knew ye.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Wn_iz8z2AGw" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;UPDATE:&lt;br /&gt;Well we got more proof now that the LA show was a disaster. A Zeitard by the name of voiceofreason467&amp;nbsp;tried&amp;nbsp;to disprove this by providing proof there was only 70 people. Ignore the mumbley commentary and enjoy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mIybwyvuDrY?hd=1" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-4726161916691125813?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/4726161916691125813/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/zeitgeist-media-fail.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4726161916691125813'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4726161916691125813'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/zeitgeist-media-fail.html' title='Zeitgeist Media Fail'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Wn_iz8z2AGw/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-4952551828681468599</id><published>2011-09-11T18:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-09-11T18:05:43.079-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='peter joseph'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prokofy neva'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='world trade center'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='911'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='wtc'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='wtc7'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='911 truth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='peter joseph merola'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theory'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conspiracy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The venus project'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='building 7'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the zeitgeist movement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9/11'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='zeitgeist'/><title type='text'>Why I Never Became a 9/11 Truther.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;In the late summer of 2001 A friend of mine got a hold of a copy of Milton William "Bill" Cooper's infamous novel 'Behold a Pale Horse.' After he completed this book he gave it back to the owner and explained the book to me and told me to read it. He was rather convincing. Now I was only 18 at the time so I was very naive, especially if my friends liked something. Peer pressure on a very minor scale, I guess. &amp;nbsp;I didn't know anyone with a copy so I went out and&amp;nbsp;purchased&amp;nbsp;a copy at a local Barnes and Noble Store, and read it. I was convinced there was a global cabal of wealthy elites known as the Illumanati, JFK was&amp;nbsp;assassinated&amp;nbsp;by the limo driver with a gas powered pistol, and that the US Federal Government had flying saucer technology that they stole from the Nazis after World War 2 and were going to use it to stage a fake alien invasion to unite the world under a one government and one religion New World Order. And boy was that Kool-Aid* tasty at the time!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;While I was tipped by one of my friends, I did a lot of the heavy&amp;nbsp;lifting&amp;nbsp;when it came to&amp;nbsp;convincing&amp;nbsp;everyone else we knew.&amp;nbsp;I used to go to parties and have people pull out a dollar bill so I could show them the secret symbols that enslaved us on every dollar. I used to&amp;nbsp;interrogate&amp;nbsp;my father who worked in Military&amp;nbsp;Intelligence&amp;nbsp;for verification of MAJESTYTWELVE (to which he denied on all counts.) Needless to say I was quite the annoying twat, but a very convincing one. In the end I converted most of my friends out of reality and into the world of paranoid fantasy. I was very good at it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the morning of 9/11/2001 I was awakened early by my Dad. I was wondering why considering classes that day didn't start until late in the afternoon but he was quick to tell me why "You need to see this. We're under attack. Terrorists have just crashed planes into the World Trade Center, and the&amp;nbsp;Pentagon." I hopped out of bed and ran to the TV and saw what millions of Americans and billions of others around the world saw. Believe it or not, as much of a conspiracy nutter I was at the time, the thought of this being a conspiracy never crossed my mind. Even on Cooper's website did he even&amp;nbsp;allude&amp;nbsp;to it for the first month or so. In fact he was very&amp;nbsp;jingoistic about the whole situation. Posting messages about how upset he was at al-Queda for doing this to America and how we should bomb the shit out of Afghanistan. I slowly drifted into a 'Let it happen on purpose" 9/11 conspiracy theroist but I simply couldn't back it up so I just let it go. It was so short it's hardly worth mentioning, but for the sake of honesty here it is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now this was in a time before YouTube and podcasting. Finding videos and mp3s of radio shows was no easy task, especially with the recent death of Napster. However, with some work I was able to track down a Cooper lecture and some of his radio shows after 9/11 and became pretty convinced I had wasted my time on this guy. While in his book he seemed very insightful, in his spoken word you can tell this guy was off his rocker. I started to really investigate his claims independently and found they were hoaxes, elaborations or total fabrications. I found that he had some personal issues as well. Before I could really dig too deep, he had a shootout leaving him dead. That was the final nail in the coffin for me, even though it was clenching proof to some of my friends that he was really onto something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now for those of you who've wondered why I spend a lot of time debunking conspiracies, listen up. I felt terrible for what I did. I went around promoting this crazed nut job and his crackpot&amp;nbsp;theories. A lot of my friends were still jockin' this lunatic's cock as if he had something of value to say and it was my fault they were exposed to it in the first place. So I tried to make amends by correcting my mistake and spending a lot of time&amp;nbsp;researching&amp;nbsp;and debunking his&amp;nbsp;nonsense.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;I did quite well. I managed to convince all of the people I previously conned into this trap. Then in 2005, I was presented with a Flash presentation of the controlled demolition 9/11 conspiracy. As I watched it, it seemed credible until after it was over I thought about it for a few minutes and there was a few big red flags in my head. Now I'm not going to sit here and debunk all of the claims, because there are&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.debunking911.com/"&gt;plenty of&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Main_Page"&gt;websites&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3214024953129565561"&gt;videos&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4"&gt;that can&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4SEhMpbo74&amp;amp;feature=mh_lolz&amp;amp;list=PL25A25B89970BCA78"&gt;do this&lt;/a&gt; better than I ever could. But these are the thoughts that really put the whole thing in the Recycle Bin in my mind:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;"How the fuck did this all happen and not one single person involved get caught or confess?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&amp;nbsp;For something like this, it would of taken at least 10s of thousands of people all working together. No one defected from the group and ratted his buddies out? No one after the fact had a crisis of&amp;nbsp;consciousness? Please. Ben&amp;nbsp;Franklin&amp;nbsp;said something, that's dead right. Not because he said it, but because it's&amp;nbsp;empirically&amp;nbsp;true: &lt;i&gt;"&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"If there were demolition charges, how come no one saw them being installed or noticed them post&amp;nbsp;installation?"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;How could you rig a building with that many explosives and have no body notice? No janitors, carpenters, ..etc. ever noticed demolition charges or wires? One of these guys told me it was planted shortly after the 1993 WTC bombing. Again, how did no one notice? Civilians were standing around the building and they just&amp;nbsp;happen&amp;nbsp;to get all of this&amp;nbsp;equipment&amp;nbsp;in the building without anyone noticing? That's&amp;nbsp;unfathomable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;"If a&amp;nbsp;missile&amp;nbsp;hit the Pentagon, why did everyone say it was a plane? Why would something like wings leave a hole if they are designed to be lightweight?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;This really was the smoking gun of bullshit for me. Nothing about the 9/11 Pentagon CT ever made sense to me. It's just flat out retarded on every level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After this came out I did some investigation and found a lot more problems with their arguments, virtually every claim they made was either unfounded and thus ignored, cherry picked which I found&amp;nbsp;supplemental&amp;nbsp;information to correct it, or&amp;nbsp;inaccurate&amp;nbsp;which I corrected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I tracked down a group on MySpace (which was all the rave with all the kids at the time) and presented my arguments to them. This was really a wake up call if I had any lingering doubts about conspiracy&amp;nbsp;theories having any basis in reality. It was no different than debating creationists. Even today it's no different. Let's say we were to take the argument of steel melting. They make the argument and I respond that steel doesn't need to melt in order to weaken the structural&amp;nbsp;integrity&amp;nbsp;of a building. Then they shift gears and say something like "Well, what about how they built the towers to sustain a plane hitting it." Creationists employ this exact style of debate. They bring up you can't have speciation, you show them examples of speciation, and then it's off to 'you can't add information to a genome!'&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Bitch, please! To this day, I have yet to run into Twoofer who hasn't pulled this on every single time I present counter evidence. They will NEVER conced&amp;nbsp;a point. It's as if 9/11 'Truth' is a religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I don't care what your political position is. However, the best way to alienate potential converts is to use 9/11 as an argument for it. 9/11 being an inside job is not an argument for anarcho-capitalism, minarchism, communism, democratic socialism, anarchist communism, liberalism,&amp;nbsp;conservatism, monarchism, national socialism, or even Zeitgeister Robo-communism. No matter the flavor, it's a non-sequitur It's not, bringing it up does nothing but make you and everyone else who&amp;nbsp;subscribes&amp;nbsp;to your&amp;nbsp;political&amp;nbsp;stance look like a group of cranks. So knock it the fuck off, please.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;However, I know people who are in the 'movement' are not going to listen to what I say and just accuse me of being a shill, disinformation agent, psyop..etc. They'll send the typical hate mail and threats to my e-mail. They'll also leave the always funny stupid comments like "The planes hitting the towers was like throwing a aluminum can at a steel beam." And a few anti-semites will accuse me of being a Zionist. So be my guest. Comments are open and will not be deleted. 9/11 Truthers are good and shrinking their own&amp;nbsp;support. If you need any more rope to hang yourself with, let me know in the comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheers!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;*Yes I know this is a false analogy. The People's Temple cult led by Jim Jones didn't use Kool-Aid for their mass suicide/murder finally, it was actually grape Flavor-Aid.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-4952551828681468599?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/4952551828681468599/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/why-i-never-became-911-truther.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4952551828681468599'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4952551828681468599'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/09/why-i-never-became-911-truther.html' title='Why I Never Became a 9/11 Truther.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1105831735933894625</id><published>2011-06-03T12:39:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-09-26T04:22:15.479-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jadon Christensen Files me a LAWLsuit!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Seems like ever since I've been picking on conspiracy nut bars, I've been getting more and more lawsuit threats. However I never expected one to come from a creationist regarding a &lt;a href="http://www.jimjesus.com/2009_08_01_archive.html"&gt;blog post from 2 years ago&lt;/a&gt;. But it is by far the funniest threat I've seen to date. &amp;nbsp;He is telling me to remove my blog but rather than just e-mailing me, he locates my secondary YouTube channel and sent me private messages there. Hey, what ever works right? Me in red, him in blue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #9fc5e8; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;I am requesting the removal of the content from your blog concerning chat logs/electronic communications through Second Life. Jadon Christensen is the username and you did not have permission to post the log information. I hold the copyrights to the information that I typed and that information is not granted to be used without my permission. Furthermore, you posting logs of my chat is a violation of LL contracts/user agreements, TOS and Community Standards. I am requesting the removal of the content from "The Reverend Internet Jim Jesus" blog dated Tuesday, August 25, 2009. This message is also copyrighted and I reserve all of my rights under copyright law. As a result of your post, I have been getting harassed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #ea9999; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #ea9999;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Thank you for taking the time to read my blog, and I appreciate your feedback to better improve your reading experience.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;I believe you are referring to the post "Second Life Creationist Banns Me For Asking Questions." located here: http://www.jimjesus.com/2009_08_01_archive.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;As I'm sure you're aware TOS does compel users to not repost chat logs under the threat of account suspension and termination if the other parties do not consent. However, this does not include posting of chat to social media sites or other websites. Posting such logs on web pages, emailing them, or printing them out and posting them on utility poles in the "real world" -- are all actions beyond the scope of the Second Life Terms of Service. ; while that might be illegal, but those laws must be enforced by the proper law enforcement agencies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Under existing US Copyright Law and DMCA law, chat logs are not copyrighted by any party as there are multiple "owners" of respected speech presented in a public forum (i.e. open in-world chat.) If any entity could claim ownership of said chat logs it would be Linden Lab as this conversation took place on their server hardware.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;As far as harassment is concerned, this is not my issue. I can only report on what I see. How others respond is a result of their actions and their actions alone. I do not nor have not organized any campaigns of harassment against anyone in SL. I would suggest if you feel that harassment is an issue, not to submit to bronze age mythologies as scientific works.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Thank you,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Jim Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #9fc5e8;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;You are misinterpreting the law and I am not going to argue with you about it. I will take this as notice that you refuse to remove the infringing content. Please provide your attorney's contact information. You are violating my copyrights as well as defamation of character. I will pursue this in court, if you do not remove the content.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;As a side note, your childish methods were not a debate. You don't know how to have a proper debate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;If you do not provide me with your legal contact/attorney information, my attorney will subpoena the information from LL and your ISP.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;I suggest you take this matter seriously, instead of using petty insults.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #ea9999;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Thank you for reading my blog, I appreciate all feedback to help me better improve your internet experience&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;However, I feel that your interpretation of the law is unlike your literal interpretation of The Holy Bible. Laws aren't open to interpretation. Copyright law does not include minutes of dialog in internet chatrooms (which Second Life is.) Your name "Jadon Christensen" is a name in Second Life and not necessarily reflected in the real world where real people work and play. Second Life is just an artificial simulator comprised artificial human/animal/hybrid life forms which are also not real.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;I disagree with your interpretation of said debate, and apparently you have experienced some others who may have disagreed as well. Perhaps that is a subject to interpretation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;I feel as if my content is within my rights under the first amendment of the United States to post all dialogs and exchanges without prior written confidentiality agreements. I made no slanderous/libelous statements against any real or living persons.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;However if you wish to file a lawlsuit against me, please contact Ron Kuby or Bill Kunstler. Bill's cell number is&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="gc-cs-link" id="gc-number-1" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; cursor: pointer; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" title="Call with Google Voice"&gt;(714) 512-2858&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Thanks for reading, I hope to hear more feedback from you and others as it helps improve the high quality of service you expect from jimjesus.com.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Have a great day,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Jim Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #9fc5e8;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;I can see you are not taking this request seriously, providing me with names and information of people who are not your legal representatives. Copyright and the DMCA is applicable in this case. I will be filing in my home town, not your state. That will require you to pay for an attorney who is licensed to practice law in my state. You are refusing to give me any genuine contact information and I have made several attempts to contact you. I have attempted to resolve this issue, but you have refused to remove my content.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Again, if you have the name of a practicing attorney who is your legal representative, provide me with that information.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #ea9999; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Thank you for reading my blog, I will await your lawyer's fan mail.&lt;br /&gt;Jim Jesus.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1105831735933894625?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/1105831735933894625/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/06/jadon-christensen-files-me-lawlsuit.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1105831735933894625'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1105831735933894625'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/06/jadon-christensen-files-me-lawlsuit.html' title='Jadon Christensen Files me a LAWLsuit!'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-2292748823532175646</id><published>2011-05-30T13:04:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-05-30T13:07:54.952-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Why I'm voting for Obama and Disavowing Libertarianism.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;So on this message board I frequent I've noticed there was a lot of Obama supporters. Now, of course as a libertarian, I find it&amp;nbsp;absolutely unavoidable that I should constantly proselytizing to them about liberty and freedom blah blah blah. I must of made 30 posts explaining to them why they are retarded for&amp;nbsp;liking&amp;nbsp;Barack Obama. However, yesterday a thread on there convinced me otherwise. So I'm going to explain why I am voting for Barack Obama in 2012 and disavowing any hope for candidates like Ron Paul or Gary Johnson.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I didn't know this but Somalia was an anarcho-captialist country for a whole decade! Let's ignore the fact they never set out to create that kind of utopian idea and they just had to deal with a collapsed communist state. We don't care about that, because after all, there's only one group proposing a stateless social structure; libertarians.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Somalia has had chaos, and warlord conflicts, and pirates. Clearly this is a bad idea and should never be attempted again. I mean sure, the previous regime accounted for even more violence, but still, this is what you want to happen here? Sure life expectancy, immunizations,access to sanitation, number hospitals were up and   infant birth weights and infant mortality went down. But still, shit had pirates instead of navies. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thing that was pointed out was that in every instance that laissez-faire has been tried it ends up being ruled by an iron fist. I mean I can't find any examples of it, but stop being a libertard for a moment and hear me out. You guys go and on about how all exchanges are voluntary but what you're really saying is that exchanged happen via free will and therefore wrong if you put it in those words and I don't know how many times it needs to be explained to us why, so I won't even bother hinting what I'm talking about. And don't move the goalpost and say this isn't real capitalism, because you're all really for regulation, taxation,&amp;nbsp;subsidies, and unit banking laws but just don't wish to admit it. Also, like communism, you require the world to conform to your small government rules for it to work. Granted none of you ever even hint at such a thing, it's true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See here's the deal. Let's say you were a government, and some lunatic Austrian Economist tells you if you want to let your&amp;nbsp;country&amp;nbsp;thrive you need to cut spending and regulations, then you have one of these awesomely insightful Keynesian who says "No! You need regulations! Not just regulations, but you need to set a 'central bank' which allows you to print some money off and fund whatever projects you want to get in to!" Of course if a government really wanted their country to do well, they would listen to the guy demanding they give up controls. Clearly popular means right, so I guess i'll also be at Sunday mass next week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean voluntarism? Really? How did I expect to think that trades aren't voluntary? OK, lets say for example that you want food and water, you have to WORK for it! Ah ha! How do you explain that? Ohh and don't give me any lip about it's&amp;nbsp;voluntary&amp;nbsp;to live, ok? Please kill yourself if that is your answer. Also, please don't give me that shit about you can work for someone else,&amp;nbsp;because&amp;nbsp;that's all you'v got. Clearly no one can start a&amp;nbsp;business&amp;nbsp;or work&amp;nbsp;independently. This is just you being mad at traffic lights. Because order isn't possible without government. On another note, I'm still trying to find the name of the bureaucracy that organizes open source.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I means seriously if Austrian economics did work, there would be schools teaching it. Well, more schools. Because they don't use&amp;nbsp;mathematical&amp;nbsp;formulas to comes up with theories nor do they rely of econometrics. That's pretty much saying you don't use any proofs whatsoever. Clearly, I've looked into this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But let's put all this aside, and talk about Obama!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama gets a bad rap from these libertarian nut bars. I mean sure he talked about not just jumping into a war. Sure he said he would cut spending. Sure he said he would close Gitmo.&amp;nbsp;Sure he said he wasn't going to crack down on medical marijuana&amp;nbsp;dispensaries.&amp;nbsp;Sure he said he won't bow to special&amp;nbsp;interests&amp;nbsp;after giving banks a bail out. Sure he said he will&amp;nbsp;dissolve the Milliary Commissions Act. Sure he gave us unfunded obligations that that&amp;nbsp;exceed&amp;nbsp;the world's total GDP combined and doubled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sure, but libertarians are immature cranks.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-2292748823532175646?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/2292748823532175646/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/05/why-im-voting-for-obama-and-disavowing.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/2292748823532175646'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/2292748823532175646'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/05/why-im-voting-for-obama-and-disavowing.html' title='Why I&apos;m voting for Obama and Disavowing Libertarianism.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-8472618528949107152</id><published>2011-04-19T11:25:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-19T18:41:09.640-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Who is John Galt? Or Why Atlas Shrugged Pt. 1 Should be a Lesson to The Venus Project.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;The Venus Project has been&amp;nbsp;begging&amp;nbsp;for donations to start this movie about life in an RBE. So far, they managed to milk 33,000 USD for this project. Peter&amp;nbsp;Joesph&amp;nbsp;posted a huge&amp;nbsp;letter&amp;nbsp;detailing why this is a bad idea, but I will go a&amp;nbsp;little&amp;nbsp;further.Let's look at Atlas Shrugged and compare it to TVP Movie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Atlas Shrugged is a novel that is based on the political philosophy 'Objectivism' and free-market economics. In the book they explore how the&amp;nbsp;philosophy&amp;nbsp;works in the US system before it's collapse and how it works in a society where there is no government outside of a few courts. This is very similar to what Fresco wants for his movie; what life would be like according to his&amp;nbsp;philosophy&amp;nbsp;in his world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now just for the record, I tried reading this book an failed. The long soliloquies about objectivism got to be too much to bear and never finished it. Because I saw this movie, I'm attempting again just to get the story that was cut off in the movie. So my bias exists, but is minimal at best.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Atlas Shrugged is&amp;nbsp;revered&amp;nbsp;amongst&amp;nbsp;conservatives and&amp;nbsp;libertarians. Recently the book has been enjoying a&amp;nbsp;renaissance as it hit the Amazon best seller list recently. So you do have a very large fan base to pander. Far larger than TVP or TZM, I'm sure we can agree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hollywood has been struggling to get this into a movie made for years. The big studios wanted nothing to do with it. Look at this clip from the movie and see if we can understand why:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/o8MVFoiw-dw?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now remember in Hollywood everything is unionized. Actors, screenwriters, directors, producers, video and sound guys all have their own union. Tell me what would happen if Warner Brothers made this move? Would the unions not protest that an anti-union movie is being made? You bet your sweet ass!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now not to say big studios do make these movies our of these overly political books. Take V for Vendetta for example. In the graphic novel, Alan Moore explains in great detail the philosophy of anarchism. Warner Bros. stripped all of it's pro-anarchist leanings, and left with a nice popcorn film without a tinge of pro-anarchism ideals whatsoever. Then there's the clearly liberal/progressive movie Avatar.&amp;nbsp;This is what is known as a cause movie. Cause movies can work, but only if they are done right like Avatar. However, what impact did that movie really have on you? &amp;nbsp;Think about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What Atlas Shrugged took was a&amp;nbsp;business&amp;nbsp;man to invest 10 million dollars to fund this movie though an independent&amp;nbsp;studio to make it. The result? A&amp;nbsp;mediocre&amp;nbsp;film that put too much&amp;nbsp;emphasis&amp;nbsp;on the politics than the story. This is reflected from the book well, but in a movie that's preachy, you're only going to&amp;nbsp;attract&amp;nbsp;like minds and alienate people who already object to the philosophy. You're preaching to the&amp;nbsp;choir.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did find the movie entertaining, but only because I agree, for the most part, with the ideas of her philosophy. I think we need to admit this&amp;nbsp;whether&amp;nbsp;you you liked the movie or not; it was a disaster. In fact, most movies are.&amp;nbsp;This only got on 300 screens nationwide, pulled in a little more than 2 million the first weekend, which isn't too bad, but considering the 10 million invested we can safely assume the chances for part 2 or 3&amp;nbsp;coming&amp;nbsp;out anytime soon is unlikely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I submit, TVP Movie will be worse. They will not pull in more than 100,000 dollars. Big studios will turn it down because of it's message some will think is communist and will be forced to produce it independently. The result will be corner cutting in CGI (as we saw in Atlas Shrugged) and a story that plays second fiddle to the philosophy. The people who will come to see it, are those who are already interested in the philosophy already. The people like me who will see it, my be annoyed by it's&amp;nbsp;blatant&amp;nbsp;political message that gets in the way of the story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a bad idea. I suggest you abandon it. The libertarians tried your method for you in advance, learn from our mistakes before repeating them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-8472618528949107152?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/8472618528949107152/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/who-is-john-galt-or-why-atlas-shrugged.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8472618528949107152'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8472618528949107152'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/who-is-john-galt-or-why-atlas-shrugged.html' title='Who is John Galt? Or Why Atlas Shrugged Pt. 1 Should be a Lesson to The Venus Project.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/o8MVFoiw-dw/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1378234873208043592</id><published>2011-04-18T20:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-18T20:36:23.250-05:00</updated><title type='text'>"Fear the Boom and Bust" a Hayek vs. Keynes Rap Anthem</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/d0nERTFo-Sk?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We’ve been going back and forth for a century&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] I want to steer markets,&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] I want them set free&lt;br /&gt;There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] Blame low interest rates.&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes Sings:]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Maynard Keynes, wrote the book on modern macro&lt;br /&gt;The man you need when the economy’s off track, [whoa]&lt;br /&gt;Depression, recession now your question’s in session&lt;br /&gt;Have a seat and I’ll school you in one simple lesson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BOOM, 1929 the big crash&lt;br /&gt;We didn’t bounce back—economy’s in the trash&lt;br /&gt;Persistent unemployment, the result of sticky wages&lt;br /&gt;Waiting for recovery? Seriously? That’s outrageous!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had a real plan any fool can understand&lt;br /&gt;The advice, real simple—boost aggregate demand!&lt;br /&gt;C, I, G, all together gets to Y&lt;br /&gt;Make sure the total’s growing, watch the economy fly&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We’ve been going back and forth for a century&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] I want to steer markets,&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] I want them set free&lt;br /&gt;There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] Blame low interest rates.&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You see it’s all about spending, hear the register cha-ching&lt;br /&gt;Circular flow, the dough is everything&lt;br /&gt;So if that flow is getting low, doesn’t matter the reason&lt;br /&gt;We need more government spending, now it’s stimulus season&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So forget about saving, get it straight out of your head&lt;br /&gt;Like I said, in the long run—we’re all dead&lt;br /&gt;Savings is destruction, that’s the paradox of thrift&lt;br /&gt;Don’t keep money in your pocket, or that growth will never lift…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;because…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Business is driven by the animal spirits&lt;br /&gt;The bull and the bear, and there’s reason to fear its&lt;br /&gt;Effects on capital investment, income and growth&lt;br /&gt;That’s why the state should fill the gap with stimulus both…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The monetary and the fiscal, they’re equally correct&lt;br /&gt;Public works, digging ditches, war has the same effect&lt;br /&gt;Even a broken window helps the glass man have some wealth&lt;br /&gt;The multiplier driving higher the economy’s health&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And if the Central Bank’s interest rate policy tanks&lt;br /&gt;A liquidity trap, that new money’s stuck in the banks!&lt;br /&gt;Deficits could be the cure, you been looking for&lt;br /&gt;Let the spending soar, now that you know the score&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My General Theory’s made quite an impression&lt;br /&gt;[a revolution] I transformed the econ profession&lt;br /&gt;You know me, modesty, still I’m taking a bow&lt;br /&gt;Say it loud, say it proud, we’re all Keynesians now&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We’ve been goin’ back n forth for a century&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] I want to steer markets,&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] I want them set free&lt;br /&gt;There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] I made my case, Freddie H&lt;br /&gt;Listen up , Can you hear it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hayek sings:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ll begin in broad strokes, just like my friend Keynes&lt;br /&gt;His theory conceals the mechanics of change,&lt;br /&gt;That simple equation, too much aggregation&lt;br /&gt;Ignores human action and motivation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yet it continues as a justification&lt;br /&gt;For bailouts and payoffs by pols with machinations&lt;br /&gt;You provide them with cover to sell us a free lunch&lt;br /&gt;Then all that we’re left with is debt, and a bunch&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you’re living high on that cheap credit hog&lt;br /&gt;Don’t look for cure from the hair of the dog&lt;br /&gt;Real savings come first if you want to invest&lt;br /&gt;The market coordinates time with interest&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your focus on spending is pushing on thread&lt;br /&gt;In the long run, my friend, it’s your theory that’s dead&lt;br /&gt;So sorry there, buddy, if that sounds like invective&lt;br /&gt;Prepared to get schooled in my Austrian perspective&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We’ve been going back and forth for a century&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] I want to steer markets,&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] I want them set free&lt;br /&gt;There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] Blame low interest rates.&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The place you should study isn’t the bust&lt;br /&gt;It’s the boom that should make you feel leery, that’s the thrust&lt;br /&gt;Of my theory, the capital structure is key.&lt;br /&gt;Malinvestments wreck the economy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The boom gets started with an expansion of credit&lt;br /&gt;The Fed sets rates low, are you starting to get it?&lt;br /&gt;That new money is confused for real loanable funds&lt;br /&gt;But it’s just inflation that’s driving the ones&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who invest in new projects like housing construction&lt;br /&gt;The boom plants the seeds for its future destruction&lt;br /&gt;The savings aren’t real, consumption’s up too&lt;br /&gt;And the grasping for resources reveals there’s too few&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the boom turns to bust as the interest rates rise&lt;br /&gt;With the costs of production, price signals were lies&lt;br /&gt;The boom was a binge that’s a matter of fact&lt;br /&gt;Now its devalued capital that makes up the slack.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether it’s the late twenties or two thousand and five&lt;br /&gt;Booming bad investments, seems like they’d thrive&lt;br /&gt;You must save to invest, don’t use the printing press&lt;br /&gt;Or a bust will surely follow, an economy depressed&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your so-called “stimulus” will make things even worse&lt;br /&gt;It’s just more of the same, more incentives perversed&lt;br /&gt;And that credit crunch ain’t a liquidity trap&lt;br /&gt;Just a broke banking system, I’m done, that’s a wrap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We’ve been goin’ back n forth for a century&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] I want to steer markets,&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] I want them set free&lt;br /&gt;There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it&lt;br /&gt;[Hayek] Blame low interest rates.&lt;br /&gt;[Keynes] No it’s the animal spirits&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1378234873208043592?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' 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/&gt;Breif explanation of why Austrians are labeled 'cranks':&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-za39sRerRA?rel=0" title="YouTube video player" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More in-depth talk on Economic Calculation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/b7zzH8ruLDc?rel=0" title="YouTube video player" width="640"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Austirans on Money, Banking and the Federal Reserve&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/iYZM58dulPE?rel=0" title="YouTube video player" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jacob Spinney responds to TVPchallenge:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/yhNoUW4UTpI?rel=0" title="YouTube video 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href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rPohjJeBBNs/TaIsSA8LVCI/AAAAAAAAAjg/bevG8MGhGvc/s1600/Rage_face.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rPohjJeBBNs/TaIsSA8LVCI/AAAAAAAAAjg/bevG8MGhGvc/s1600/Rage_face.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Revenge is a dish best served cold" -&amp;nbsp;Marie Joseph Eugène Sue&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On April 7, 2011 &lt;a href="http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/addressing-v-radios-attempt-at-solving.html"&gt;I posted a blog&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;about V-Radio and their blog post at attempting to address the economic calculation problem. I posted it before I had my morning coffee and i had to retract a lot of it and edit it heavily. However, my frustration&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;evident&amp;nbsp;but I feel was justified. Neil had not looked at any of the material we gave him and relied on Wikipedia. Wikipedia cannot be an objective&amp;nbsp;source&amp;nbsp;of information in regards to politics, economics, religion, or any other topic where there is debate, it's just a starting point. I took that, amongst other things, as an attempt to&amp;nbsp;deliberately&amp;nbsp;distort our position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thing that angered me further was after I posted this blog addressing this you ignored it. It could very well be true you were not aware of it's&amp;nbsp;existence&amp;nbsp;as I didn't send it to you directly. However, you were aware that I was one of the many people you could of asked to come on and talk about it, and you didn't bother to invite me or the multitude of other people who you could have asked and other people who offered to be on the show with you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also in this show you claimed we were 'disciples' of Mises who 'dogmatically' believe everything he says and intentionally ignore your arguments because we are 'religiously' opposed to them. This is a high level of dishonest debate techniques that is&amp;nbsp;abhorrently&amp;nbsp;hypocritical. In your debate with Stefan Molyneux (and you boast so eagerly) that The Zeitgeist Movement he says it doesn't matter if you guys are a cult if what you advocate is true. You attempt to tackle an argument that is irrelevant to the conversation that The Zeitgeist Movement is a dogmatic religion, then turn around and use that exact style of argument with others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;So concluding this part, the Zeitgeist movement is not a religion. Does not advocate a religion. Does not encourage religious practices. Has no rituals. Or ceremonies. We obviously don't have any “sacred ideology” and do not have any “sacred symbols” because we don't believe in the concept of anything being “sacred” because we don't believe in religion. And that basically disqualifies it from all of the negative connotations that are generally brought up when using the world “cult” in the derogatory. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;A lot of people in TZM do admire Jacque Fresco for his work. Nobody is building any shrines to him. Nobody believes he is God. Or mystical. I know people who admire Muhammad Ali for his boxing prowess. That doesn't mean they worship him. So, religion again is out of the way here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div lang="en" style="line-height: 115%; margin-bottom: 0.14in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;*THE PARADIGM SHIFT*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;"The problem is that I answered him, but like, as typical with Austrian Economics enthusiasts, that are very set in their ways, so to speak, and very dogmatic."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div lang="en" style="line-height: 115%; margin-bottom: 0.14in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;"It's very funny how people come out of the woodwork, even from just reading my blog and how angry they get when you talk in contridictionary to the way their free-market 'Gods' speak."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I never said The Zeitgeist Movement or The Venus Project is a destructive cult or a religion, and have said it isn't numerous&amp;nbsp;times. While I have expressed&amp;nbsp;concerns&amp;nbsp;about how The Zeitgeist Movement is structured and the recruitment methods, I have made it clear that this is not why I oppose the Venus Project. Even if contend that if they are a cult, it doesn't negate their political&amp;nbsp;ideology&amp;nbsp;that might very well be true. Neil was quick to attack me for even hinting that it could be a cult for this very same reason. Fine, then don't say I'm in a cult as your argument against my position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You need to offer a formal&amp;nbsp;apology to not only me, but the people you said these things too. Even if Austrian economics are a fringe dogmatic religion, this is the very same stupid "ad-hom bomb" you are quick to correct others on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now let's put this all aside for now and re-write the article as I think it should be for the sake of the real ECP debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now Neil says he was a libertarian. He claims that during the 2004 election, he was turned on to the ideals of liberty from Dr. Ron Paul's debate and later running for office on the Libertarian ticket.&amp;nbsp;I too came from another political&amp;nbsp;ideology&amp;nbsp;myself, and I'll delve into it if Neal ever brings me on the show and asks the usual thinking out of the box question. So we both can agree that no system is perfect. One we see an&amp;nbsp;optimal&amp;nbsp;solution to the problems facing us, we are both willing to give up those ideas we hold on strongly onto for what we feel is a better solution. So either one of us could be wrong, or worse yet, BOTH OF US ARE WRONG. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-y5vDhX1FQIA/TaNjbDnIwqI/AAAAAAAAAjo/eInYqc7Whag/s1600/dun128490452987812500.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-y5vDhX1FQIA/TaNjbDnIwqI/AAAAAAAAAjo/eInYqc7Whag/s320/dun128490452987812500.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil expresses that he and other who support The Venus Project are falsely labeled as socialists and communists when we propose that the RBE falls into the economic calculation problem of socialist economies.&amp;nbsp;While it is true I think that this system is a new flavor of anarcho-syndicalism (which is 'voluntary' socialism) this is irrelevant. They are just labels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To give you an understanding of the debate at the time Mises wrote the article, there were 2 camps. The crazy Utopian Socialists (name given by Marx after he realized these guys were getting clobbered by the classical economists for saying things like roasted chickens would fly into your mouth and the seas would turn to lemonade) and 'Scientific Socialism' which would be latter called Communism.  The issue Mises had was not because communism and socialism was 'evil' and was afraid of 'sharing.' It was the ideas proposed by them that you also share; central planning of an economy and no money. The reason we bring this up is not because you said 'share' and we heard 'SOCIALISM! PINKO COMMIES!' No, we heard 'managing all the worlds resources and distributing them for free,' the very problem with communist and socialist systems. If The Venus Project also were around&amp;nbsp;during&amp;nbsp;that debate, he would of dropped the word 'socialist' from the paper for another word that&amp;nbsp;collectively&amp;nbsp;shares the same problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil goes on to try to explain the economic calculation problem, but&amp;nbsp;completely&amp;nbsp;misrepresents it. Mises said there are 3 things you need for a functional economy:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;You need private property in all means of production. Not just in&amp;nbsp;consumer&amp;nbsp;goods, but capital goods as well. The machines that make the goods, the&amp;nbsp;resource&amp;nbsp;collection for those goods...etc. The things that you and I will never buy as end consumers. Which is&amp;nbsp;necessary&amp;nbsp;for #2&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;You need to have exchange. If the&amp;nbsp;capital&amp;nbsp;goods or consumer end goods are owned by a one party (i.e. The Common&amp;nbsp;Heritage&amp;nbsp;of The Earth) you can't have exchange.&amp;nbsp;Without exchange, you can't&amp;nbsp;determine the&amp;nbsp;marginal utility of goods and services.&amp;nbsp;In order to know what to make given the limited resources and the&amp;nbsp;infinite&amp;nbsp;possible&amp;nbsp;combinations to use them, you need to take into account what the ever-changing and&amp;nbsp;unpredictable&amp;nbsp;individual whims have. The only way to extrapolate the data&amp;nbsp;derived&amp;nbsp;from those exchanges is #3.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sound money. By sound, we mean a currency based in value that cannot be printed out of thin air. Most likely, the favorable would be a gold . As it's durable, high value to weight ratio, easy to&amp;nbsp;determine&amp;nbsp;quality. (You don't have to be an expert to see if it's low&amp;nbsp;quality&amp;nbsp;or fakes like diamonds are.) What this does is turn those exchanges based on the&amp;nbsp;heterogeneous&amp;nbsp;subjective desires or wants, into an objective homogeneous number to calculate and make future profit&amp;nbsp;forecasts&amp;nbsp;with. If it's not profitable to fashion a particular&amp;nbsp;resource&amp;nbsp;into something, it means people do not value it's utility enough to spend time, energy, labor, and recourses to trade with it in the form of money. Companies would have to figure out how to produce it with less production costs. (i.e.&amp;nbsp;maybe&amp;nbsp;we don't need to buy a&amp;nbsp;machine&amp;nbsp;to remove apple stems if it will make apples too expensive and not worth the effort if most of the consumers don't care about the stem..)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has nothing to do with companies trying to "dominate" a market. Companies want&amp;nbsp;competition&amp;nbsp;if they are willing to admit it or not. If Google continued without Bing, Google would have a hard time figuring out what people want if they are the only ones providing the service. They need to look to&amp;nbsp;competition&amp;nbsp;to build a better mousetrap, and via versa. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil gives an analogy:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bob produces widgets. Bob calculates a price based on the cost of the resources that were used in making his widgets, including how much he had to pay his employees at the widget factory. He of course wants to make a profit so he charges a price that is above and beyond the costs involved in production. If he gets too greedy then people instead may buy a rival product that has a lower price.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is bad analogy. Here's a more accurate one:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bob produces widgets. Based on this system, Bob can predict that his widget would cost 100 dollars if he adds features 'x', 'y', and 'z'. If he leaves out feature 'y' and places a new feature he developed that's called 'a' that's more efficient than 'y' but it would cost 10 more dollars in production.  He could use prices to forecast how much people would pay to see if producing it with a over 'y' is a good idea, and the market will either embrace 'a' and pay a higher cost, or just settle for 'y'. This does NOT mean that if 'a' is better, that anyone still producing 'y' will become obsolete and bankrupt.  The market will reflect that 'a' is more preferable, but not everyone should get 'a' if 'y' will suffice at a lower cost. Since there is only enough resources to allow a few people to have this widget at a given time, the price system gives people the necessary information to calculate it's utility. If you need 'a' because you need it for work or whatever, you will value it's utility more than someone who just wants 'a' for fun when 'y' would suffice. In order to figure this out, he needs to look to prices to&amp;nbsp;forecast&amp;nbsp;profits and losses&amp;nbsp;whether&amp;nbsp;or not he could produce it for a nominal extra charge. Something a system without prices to determine production costs, could not figure out until lots of&amp;nbsp;resources&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;misallocated&amp;nbsp;to the point of some form of collapse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is also why scientific efficiency differs from economic efficiency. It may be scientifically efficient to make a widget with x, y, z, a, b, and g but it couldn't tell you who will utilize it to their peak economic efficiency. Only economics will determine if people need all those features, and who should get it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil goes on to quote Wikipedia. Let me stop you there. With all the videos, books and articles we gave you that explains this, you go with Wikipedia? Are you trying to be dishonest or are you naive to think Wikipedia is an unbiased objective source of information? Look no further than The Venus Project's entry for reliability of Wikipedia. That whole article is ripped right off The Venus Project's website verbatim. No criticism section, not so much of a hint that people may object to this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now Neil, using Wikipedia, finds that money is mentioned and assumes that we&amp;nbsp;contend&amp;nbsp;the American Dollar is sound money. This is incorrect. I can use this same fallacious reasoning to say this loaf of Wonder Bread is white, ergo ALL bread is white. Neil also points to various&amp;nbsp;heavily&amp;nbsp;regulated regulated and protected industries as examples of free-exchange. This is also incorrect. He also assumes that the&amp;nbsp;indoctrination&amp;nbsp;into a consumer culture is a&amp;nbsp;monetary&amp;nbsp;issue. This is also incorrect. He may not&amp;nbsp;explicitly&amp;nbsp;say we advocates it, but he does point to it as if we would contend it should be true in this scenario.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Zeitgeist 1, 2, and 3 goes into detail about why the American Dollar is anything but sound money. It is a Ponzi scheme to&amp;nbsp;amass&amp;nbsp;wealth and cause wealth disparities. The problem, is it&amp;nbsp;conflates&amp;nbsp;this problem with all forms of money. Neil, you were a libertarian. To told me expressly in no&amp;nbsp;uncertain&amp;nbsp;terms that you know this. You went and presented it anyways. This, in my mind at least, &amp;nbsp;is either a retraction&amp;nbsp;on your previous claim, a&amp;nbsp;blatant&amp;nbsp;strawman, or&amp;nbsp;a case of&amp;nbsp;amnesia.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The oil industry is anything but a free-enterprise, it's mercantilism. Government props up organizations like OPEC who sets the price for all companies to adhere to. Regulations are in place to ensure no new&amp;nbsp;competition&amp;nbsp;to the market. Can you find this in an area of even our current system that is at least half as regulated as oil? Oil is arguably the least free-market sector of our whole economy that isn't expressly a government body, other countries have even nationalized&amp;nbsp;their oil production.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Advertising. We both know who educates the children in this country. We both know they impose the idea that once we get out of school, the best thing to do is get the wife, kids, huge house, huge car that you cannot afford and 'build credit' (or as we say in the real world, build debt.) So the government is&amp;nbsp;teaching&amp;nbsp;this and not teaching critical thinking skills. We'll get into marketing later.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Mises suggests that no rational prices can be reached without a price system. But are rational prices actually reached within a price system? No. The reason? The entire price engine is driven by the profit motive. And profit by no means depends on rationality.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would agree this is true in a&amp;nbsp;Keynesian&amp;nbsp;system that depends on constant over-consumption, but this has never been the case in a free-market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil then delves into advertising. It is true that marketing has turned into this simple "We have a great product, here's why it's the best" to using manipulative psychological tricks to get you to buy things. These tricks cannot work with people who are aware of those deceptive&amp;nbsp;possesses. For example, Neil is a guy who has been educated about&amp;nbsp;advertising. He has also educated his children about it, and helps them find ways of avoiding or ignoring it. We don't need an RBE to counter this, we just need to have more control over what is taught to our kids. Control we will never have in a state owned&amp;nbsp;public&amp;nbsp;school system. Neil, unknowingly, is defeating these&amp;nbsp;corporations&amp;nbsp;and their millions of dollars and brain scans where it hurts; in the wallet. If there were more people like Neil who took it into his own hands to educate his kids about this stuff, we wouldn't have a consumer whore generation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He goes on to explain that there are handbags being sold for 3 grand, shoes being sold for 1 grand, or a shoulder bag for 8 grand. This, he says, is evidence that the price system fails at rationally pricing goods. This is false. The fact that I can go to Payless Shoes and get a pair of Airwalks for 15 bucks shows that it is possible to buy these goods that are about equal in utility, but if you want you can buy the flasher shoe for more. I on the other hand stick to DC. I can get a pair for about 30 bucks, they look nice, work great, and aren't going to get me made fun of. I could do something better if I wanted, I could buy the Airwalks and tell people who laugh at me to fuck off. I like the DCs better though, they are comfier and last longer. I honestly doubt you have ever spend more than 200 bucks on one item of clothing. Funny how you, I and many others in both your camp and my camp, for the most part, don't fall into this trap.&amp;nbsp;Maybe&amp;nbsp;because people aren't all as stupid as you make them out to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there a reason to buy this overpriced bullshit? Yes. If you are in the entertainment/fashion&amp;nbsp;business, this could be seen as a&amp;nbsp;capital&amp;nbsp;investment as it reflects taste and style, a good that they are selling. We may not agree, but we're not entertainment agents who are qualified at making those decisions for others, who am I to say&amp;nbsp;Angelina&amp;nbsp;Joelie's&amp;nbsp;career could be rescued by holding a $2,000 Prada handbag on Oscar night? I have no clue how a lot of this industry works. I do know a former executive for a big name movie studio, I could ask if you'd like.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He goes into planned&amp;nbsp;obsolescence, predatory pricing, and collusion. Again, this is only possible in a market which puts barriers to entry and enforces&amp;nbsp;corporate&amp;nbsp;collusion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Planned&amp;nbsp;obsolescence&amp;nbsp;can be&amp;nbsp;easily&amp;nbsp;counteracted by allowing entrepreneurs to compete with more reliable products. If they fail, you could always create a fundraiser and offer a cash prize the the company that produces this item first. If these won't work, then you could figure out a way to encourage them to do so. The free-market is like &lt;a href="http://www.zombo.com/"&gt;ZomboCom&lt;/a&gt;, anything is possible and the only limitation is YOU.*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Predatory&amp;nbsp;pricing is bullshit, even today. We see examples of companies like Wal-Mart. coming in and driving away&amp;nbsp;competition. What we don't see is after the&amp;nbsp;competition&amp;nbsp;is gone, they jack up prices. This is a bare assertion that isn't backed up with any evidence. In the real world, what's to stop these companies to buy up the goods from Wal-Mart and then sell them at a higher price? This has&amp;nbsp;happened&amp;nbsp;before with Herbert Dow. Dow found a way to make bromine cheaper than his competitors. The German chemical cartel couldn't compete with Dow when he came to Europe. What did this cartel do? They went to America and sold bromine for half the price in an attempt to undercut him. Dow was brilliant, he had his people go and buy up all this&amp;nbsp;under-priced&amp;nbsp;bromine and resold it. The cartels got angry and slashed their price in half yet again hoping to under bid him. Dow&amp;nbsp;continued&amp;nbsp;to buy up this even cheaper bromine and resell it even cheaper. The cartel gave up after it got so&amp;nbsp;laden&amp;nbsp;down with debt and Dow became very rich from this&amp;nbsp;endeavor. Economists today know this to be a fallacy, even outside of Chicago and Austrian schools because there's simply no evidence for this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ah yes, the old&amp;nbsp;vestige&amp;nbsp;of the statist think; Oil companies are a prime example of the free-market in action. With all the regulations that are placed on the oil companies that are written by oil company lobbyists to protect their cartel (OPEC,) how is this free-market? Funny how you only see this in health care, oil, pharmaceuticals, and diamonds which are heavily regulated and have government enforcement cartelization or monopolies and not in more free-market sectors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil claims that the price system allows for 'worker exploitation.' Exploitation is a subjective term, especially in RBE terms as punching a time clock is not only&amp;nbsp;exploitative, it's a dictatorship. You must remember, you are the final arbiter. If you don't want to support what you feel is exploitation, don't buy it. If you can't afford&amp;nbsp;alternatives, it might be due the the fact half of your income was stolen by the government. I personally try to avoid sweatshop goods, and you say you do as well. I doubt Zeitgeisters who take TVP seriously as you buy sweatshop goods regularly. This is the free-market principles in action. People are&amp;nbsp;understanding&amp;nbsp;this is bad, and&amp;nbsp;competition&amp;nbsp;has emerged to&amp;nbsp;satisfy&amp;nbsp;a sweatshop-free demand for clothes. If we weren't taxed to hell, having our money inflated, and had to have 2 working people in a household just for ends meat, we could afford to pay twice as much for a hat. If you don't want to support companies outsourcing, then don't fucking shop at Wal-Mart! It's not the companies that are forcing people out of work and out of business and outsourcing, it's the consumers who demand lower prices and support their business practices by buying those goods. There are thousands of companies that successfully compete with Wal-Mart, some of whom offer those goods in sweatshop-free factories. Don't blame Wal-Mart for fulfilling the wishes of their customers, blame the customers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil then says that in Z3 and in his own experience that there are random children starving and dying in the streets while we are selling a thousand dollar handbag next to them. While I would agree this system is leaving hundreds of thousands, if not millions people with substandard living conditions, I cannot agree to this extent. The American poverty class have way higher standards of living than any other poverty stricken people in most other nations. While Detroit and it failed planned economy might be an example of people living under even those modest means, this is still&amp;nbsp;appealing&amp;nbsp;to emotions. Do I feel bad there are people suffering? Yes. Do I think there's a way to fix this? Yes. Do I think it's the RBE? Hell no.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;When attacking any centrally planned system, the Austrian economists point to examples such as the various instances of mass starvation supposedly created by centrally planned economies. They point to death camps and gulags as the inevitable solutions of failed centrally planned economies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Mises and his disciples stated that centrally planned economies fail due to the fact that the resources would be distributed according to the “whims” of bureaucrats.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Bullshit, we know you won't have gulags and concentration camps, thats not what we're saying. We're pointing out people dying as a result of famines and miss allocation of other resources that caused people to flee the cities and build anarcho-primitivist communes. NOT BECAUSE OF BRUTAL PSYCHOTIC&amp;nbsp;DICTATORS! Mises never said it was because of the 'whims,' he said you could only have 'whims' as there is not a system to&amp;nbsp;calculate&amp;nbsp;production costs and marginal utility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil goes on to point out wealth disparities in America as if that's free-market in action. This is also&amp;nbsp;incorrect. The wealth disparities in America did not&amp;nbsp;arise&amp;nbsp;until after the foundation of The Federal Reserve and the hundreds of thousands of barriers to entries created by government. I would ask him to point out anywhere in history or currently where there was sound money, limited government intervention and&amp;nbsp;egregious&amp;nbsp;wealth disparities in it's&amp;nbsp;populous. There have been&amp;nbsp;numerous&amp;nbsp;examples of countries having the first 2, but not all 3.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;It's ironic that the same incident of the rules suddenly changing in the book “Animal Farm” that was supposed to be a story about communism applies just as well to people living in a capitalist system.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That's because we're a sociofascistic country who are enacting laws and programs like those in Animal Farm. Is it any wonder why we are starting become like them when we start emulating them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil goes on to point out why Mises and Hayek are wrong because they argued this in the 1920's (ignoring that they continued arguing this up until their deaths in the 70's and 90's and further ignoring other&amp;nbsp;contributions&amp;nbsp;to the ECP and Salerno and Woods which continue today.) The age of the idea that the earth is round is&amp;nbsp;irrelevant even when we take into account how wrong the originators were. The earth is not a perfect sphere or pear shaped and we know this now due to new techologies that could&amp;nbsp;determine&amp;nbsp;this. &amp;nbsp;Neil tried to paint the picture that Mises came up with the idea, Hayek finished it, and it's been set in stone ever since. This is patently dishonest if he holds to the claim he has looked into this and I'll show you why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ECP is not&amp;nbsp;completely&amp;nbsp;Mises' idea. It started with&amp;nbsp;Charles Menger and his thesis on money and marginal utility. Menger knew that prices reflected marginal utility, but couldn't explain exactly how. Mises came along and showed how this worked. Hayek pointed out some discrepancies and divided the school on this issue. Rothbard and Salerno also had their&amp;nbsp;contributions&amp;nbsp;as well. As the ECP debate rages on today, Austrian and other schools have come closer on this issue over time. Some Marxist economists still propose a world wide communist system where they still allow Hong Kong to be a free market just so they can use their prices in planning. It is a real debate, the other sides are taking it seriously. The only people not taking it seriously are the RBE folks, which is understandable. The Zeitgeist films which is&amp;nbsp;responsible&amp;nbsp;for most of the&amp;nbsp;interest&amp;nbsp;in RBE are laden down with all the possible economic fallacies that it weeds out people who know a thing or two about economics from even participating.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil goes on to say that Hayek is wrong that people would have no&amp;nbsp;incentive&amp;nbsp;to provide information to use in the economy. While it is true that people will want to&amp;nbsp;voluntarily&amp;nbsp;provide information if it will better suit their desires, people will&amp;nbsp;ultimately&amp;nbsp;not. Why? Think about all the economic decisions you make in a given day. Do you want a banana, or some ice cream? Do you want a Pepsi, or a Dr. Pepper? Tuna or black forest ham? iPhone or Android? Could you imagine if&amp;nbsp;every time&amp;nbsp;you have a decision thats not a reflection of what you wanted in the past you had to fill out a&amp;nbsp;survey? Or worse yet, had to learn about all the possible resources available and decide based with a survey afterwards? Even if you limit it just to the resources needed for just that particular need, it will end up being too much of a daunting task for any one person to do&amp;nbsp;every time&amp;nbsp;they decide they want a chicken burger over a beef burger.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An error I see Neil making, that other Zeitgeisters are guilty as well, of is compartmentalize goods into a overarching group. There are no beans, celery, t-bone steaks, or burgers; there is just food. There are no skirts, tank tops, pants or shoes; there are just clothes. This is another foundational falsehood in TVP. If you have 'food' and 'clothes' and distribute them, people will become sick of 'food' and unhappy with the 'cloths' provided. This is a veiled one-size-fits-all approach system that they are unwilling to admit to. I don't want 'food' today. Today I want oatmeal and scrabbled eggs for breakfast, for lunch I think a coto-salami and cheese sandwich will suffice, and for dinner I think I will make some mole chicken and&amp;nbsp;Mexican&amp;nbsp;rice.&amp;nbsp;Tomorrow, I will probably eat none of those things. Even if you&amp;nbsp;drastically&amp;nbsp;reduced my number of options of food and still could satisfy my food&amp;nbsp;desires, you couldn't predict what I will want to eat&amp;nbsp;tomorrow. Nor could I! Also I really don't care what people say about my attire, but there is no way you're getting me to wear a skirt, dress, moo-moo, or shaw. I'll take the button up work shirt and work pants. Something a lot of people won't want to wear either. If we all end up dressing the same, then I most definitely want to part of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as Project Cybersyn example, I can show this is&amp;nbsp;inaccurate. Chile at the time was ran by a communist dictator who bought into the whole technocracy. Beer&amp;nbsp;designed&amp;nbsp;the "schematics" of the "computer" which was really just an an over-elaborate&amp;nbsp;analogy for how the brain works and how people working together can operate like a computer simulating a brain. Nowhere in his&amp;nbsp;schematics&amp;nbsp;was there ever a plan to calculate information with a computer. The telex computers used were just a way to transfer information to the central location, but no information is sent back. Why? Because the control room was just a mock up. A team of unknown&amp;nbsp;bureaucrats&amp;nbsp;took all this information&amp;nbsp;received&amp;nbsp;and and made graphs and flowcharts onto slides which were projected onto the screens. The sad thing is, that even this was fake just to show the&amp;nbsp;concept&amp;nbsp;to the&amp;nbsp;Chilean&amp;nbsp;rulers how it would work.&amp;nbsp;The strike example is an error. The telex machines never calculated the answer to the problem, the telex systems only&amp;nbsp;relayed&amp;nbsp;the information to the rulers for which they manually&amp;nbsp;devised&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;alternative. Good luck getting someone, everyone is dead now who worked close on it's development. They were killed in the military coup or passed away from old age. Beer did comment later before his death that the Project Cybersyn that running the country from a computer "..was rubbish. I did no such thing."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more information about Project Cybersyn, check out this video:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://player.vimeo.com/video/8000921"&gt;http://player.vimeo.com/video/8000921&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil goes back into the tangent that we should ignore Austrians because they are not infallible and&amp;nbsp;mainstream&amp;nbsp;economists (who Neil agrees are ruining the country) consider them cranks. So what? Are we to presume that Mr. Fresco is correct because he&amp;nbsp;declared&amp;nbsp;it to be true and thus is infallible? Of course not. No one is saying Mises or Fresco is&amp;nbsp;infallible, so why bring it up as an argument against it if&amp;nbsp;infallibility&amp;nbsp;is your criteria from being a correct economist?&amp;nbsp;No one says that socialist planning is impossible because Mises said so, Mises just first&amp;nbsp;introduced&amp;nbsp;a thesis that shown itself to be true. If modern&amp;nbsp;proponents&amp;nbsp;of this idea still hold it to be true, you can't&amp;nbsp;promise&amp;nbsp;them we'll figure it out later and climb&amp;nbsp;aboard! What you need to do to show us that the model you propose, that has shown itself historically to be a disaster, can show itself to work under this NEW system. Show us an&amp;nbsp;algorithm or show us a test city that works.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You ignored it over and over when Stefan brought this up to you, but I think you need to listen this time. You are offering a&amp;nbsp;business&amp;nbsp;plan to the world that says "Get on board and we'll make sure everyone gets wealth!" How exactly? "Don't worry about it, we'll figure it out when the time comes." This stockholder wants more&amp;nbsp;explanation&amp;nbsp;before he gambles on a system that has historically shown itself to be a total failure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1nF7yolZ1oA/TaNZGgGB-UI/AAAAAAAAAjk/B-NrbGLdNSc/s1600/the-planet-earth.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1nF7yolZ1oA/TaNZGgGB-UI/AAAAAAAAAjk/B-NrbGLdNSc/s320/the-planet-earth.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I'm a stockholder of planet earth, you proposed a&amp;nbsp;business&amp;nbsp;strategy&amp;nbsp;for most of us to agree to. I need the details of this proposal before I can vote on it in good faith. So show us, the skeptical&amp;nbsp;stockholders, how exactly you can&amp;nbsp;fulfill&amp;nbsp;the unspoken needs of 6 billion people with a team of scientists and computers. If you can't I will vote 'Nay.' If you can show me how this system can work in detail or provide a test city as an example of it's&amp;nbsp;efficiency, count me in. Do you&amp;nbsp;honestly&amp;nbsp;believe I want to work hard to get the necessities and&amp;nbsp;luxuries&amp;nbsp;of life? No one does, it's just the most efficient way we are aware of. Show me exactly how to get to this better world you speak of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;*unless of course you plan on coersing or ripping people off, people will not stand for that very long.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-7468120694152433354?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/7468120694152433354/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/v-radio-economic-calculation-and-rage.html#comment-form' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/7468120694152433354'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/7468120694152433354'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/v-radio-economic-calculation-and-rage.html' title='V-Radio, Economic Calculation, and Rage.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rPohjJeBBNs/TaIsSA8LVCI/AAAAAAAAAjg/bevG8MGhGvc/s72-c/Rage_face.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-7477752504389117276</id><published>2011-04-07T17:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-07T17:58:14.427-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Why VTV's Project Cybersyn example is bullshit</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="225" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/8000921" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me know when this remotely resembles RBE?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-7477752504389117276?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/7477752504389117276/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/why-vtvs-project-cybersyn-example-is.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/7477752504389117276'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/7477752504389117276'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/why-vtvs-project-cybersyn-example-is.html' title='Why VTV&apos;s Project Cybersyn example is bullshit'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-5637726662202237968</id><published>2011-04-07T14:38:00.012-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-07T16:02:26.936-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Addressing V-Radio's Attempt at Solving the ECP. (FIX'D)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;UPDATE 2:02PM PST: I had to almost re-write this whole blog. I&amp;nbsp;promise&amp;nbsp;not to blog before coffee again.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The original blog is posted &lt;a href="http://v-radioblog.blogspot.com/2011/04/realistic-look-at-economic-calculation.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I suggest reading it first as I will not post it in it's&amp;nbsp;entirety.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The economic calculation problem is at the core of debate between free market advocates and socialists. And because a Resource Based Economy suggests distribution of resources to people absent a price tag we find ourselves not only being labeled socialists, but the same arguments being leveled at us that are leveled at socialists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While it is true I think that this system is a new flavor of anarcho-syndicalist (which is 'voluntary' socialism) this is irrelevant. To give you an understanding of the debate at the time Mises wrote the article, there were 2 camps. The crazy Utopian Socialists (name given by Marx after he realized these guys were getting clobbered by the classical economists) and 'Scientific Socialism' which would be latter called Communism.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The issue Mises had was not because communism and socialism was 'evil' and was afraid of 'sharing.' It was the ideas proposed by them that you also share; central planning of an economy and no money. The reason we bring this up is not because you said 'share' and we heard 'SOCIALISM! PINKO COMMIES!' No, we heard 'managing all the worlds resources and distributing them for free,' the very problem with communist and socialist systems.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The idea behind the price mechanism is that in in the market resources will be given a value by the market. This value would be calculated based on the cost of production which includes resources expended and labor. And then finally consumer demand. The theory is that if a producer of a given product charges too much for that item then no one will buy it. Hence forcing the producer to lower the cost. Competitive forces also play a part here as rival producers of a given product will vie for dominance in the market by offering competitive prices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So breaking this down into an analogy:&lt;br /&gt;Bob produces widgets. Bob calculates a price based on the cost of the resources that were used in making his widgets, including how much he had to pay his employees at the widget factory. He of course wants to make a profit so he charges a price that is above and beyond the costs involved in production. If he gets too greedy then people instead may buy a rival product that has a lower price.&lt;/blockquote&gt;No, that's not it. The price system does do that, but that's not all it does.&amp;nbsp;Price also&amp;nbsp;allows&amp;nbsp;entrepreneurs to make decisions based on the collective subjective demands in an objective price system and the time, energy,&amp;nbsp;resources, it would take to produce it. It would be impossible to know whether or not a&amp;nbsp;fashioning&amp;nbsp;a particular good is the best way to utilize them versus using it add or subtract features or even making something else entirely. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bob produces widgets. Based on this system, Bob can predict that his widget would cost 100 dollars if he adds features x, y, and z. If he leaves out feature y and places a new feature he developed that's called 'a' that's more&amp;nbsp;efficient&amp;nbsp;than 'y' but it would cost 10 more dollars in production. &amp;nbsp;He could use prices to&amp;nbsp;forecast&amp;nbsp;how much people would pay to see if producing it with a over 'y' is a good idea, and the market will either embrace 'a' and pay a higher cost, or just settle for y. This does NOT mean that if 'a' is better, that anyone still producing 'y' will become bankrupt. &amp;nbsp;The market will reflect that 'a' is more preferable, but not everyone should get 'a' if 'y' will suffice at a lower cost. Since there is only enough&amp;nbsp;resources&amp;nbsp;to allow a few people to have this widget at a given time, the price system gives people the&amp;nbsp;necessary&amp;nbsp;information to calculate it's utility. If you need 'a' because you need it for work or whatever, you will value it's utility more than someone who just wants 'a' for fun when 'y' would suffice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is why scientific efficiency differs from economic efficiency. It may be&amp;nbsp;scientifically&amp;nbsp;efficient to make a widget with x, y, z, a, b, and g but it couldn't tell you who will utilize it to their peak economic efficiency. Only economics will&amp;nbsp;determine if people need all those features, and who should get it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;From Wikipedia:&lt;/blockquote&gt;Neil, let me stop you there. With all the videos, books and&amp;nbsp;articles&amp;nbsp;we gave you that explains this, you go with Wikipedia? Are you trying to be dishonest or are you just that stupid to think Wikipedia is an un-biased objective source of information? Look no further than The Venus Project's entry for reliability of Wikipedia. That whole article is ripped right off The Venus Project's website&amp;nbsp;verbatim. No criticism section, not so much of a hint that people may object to this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;But what about the inefficiencies in the price system? Just how good of a job does it actually do when it comes to efficiently distributing resources? Lets take a look.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Stop right there again, Mises never said this system can work with government owned fiat money system. He agrees with you this system does not work, and states so. Mises says that you need 'sound money' which is something that cannot be printed out of thin air. So you're arguing his point home, thanks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;First of all, lets talk about advertising. Advertising has evolved over the years into what amounts to outright brainwashing. They specialize in ensuring that consumers have irrational desires for products that they do not even need. Or are even harmful to them! The work of Edward Bernays in assisting the cigarette companies in their quest to give women the irrational desire to smoke is an example I have frequently brought up on V-RADIO. Documentaries such as “Psywar” and “Consuming kids” really dig deep into the very dark reality of advertising and it's ability to target our minds in a way that causes us to feel “needs” for objects that have no rational purpose.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well why are people so&amp;nbsp;susceptible&amp;nbsp;to this but you and I are not? You said so yourself you're desires are suppressed now that you are aware of marketing's&amp;nbsp;influence. How did you do this? You educated yourself about it. So if this&amp;nbsp;parasitic&amp;nbsp;consumer&amp;nbsp;culture can be changed though education, then let's look at who is currently&amp;nbsp;education&amp;nbsp;our kids? Seems to be that the vast majority of education in America is by government schools. Wait.... Government owns the schools, owns the money system, and allows&amp;nbsp;corporations&amp;nbsp;to side step rules everyone else has to follow. Hummmm... there's a conspiracy theory to play with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In all seriousness, however, public schools have disincentives to teach any real values. You teach them anything that gives them any kind of rational reasoning, history, science...etc. there will be an angry mob with pitchforks asking for heads to roll. If people got to keep all of the money they earned and could use the money they pay though taxes for expensive public schools, and had a wide range of education to choose from there would be&amp;nbsp;intensives&amp;nbsp;to offer all kinds of values. Also if people can change not to be&amp;nbsp;consumer&amp;nbsp;whores, why the fuck bother having an R.B.E. to begin with?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;One such industry is the fashion industry. A never ending cycle of convincing people that unless they wear certain clothing, (and more specifically are willing to pay a higher price for it) they are worth less as a human being. The $3,000 hand bags mentioned in “Zeitgeist: Moving Forward” are just one of many absurd fashions that resources are devoted to. A company named Louis Vuitton will also be happy to sell you a shoulder bag for $8,000. A pair of sneakers for $1,000. Or a belt for $3,000! The price mechanism has attached to it elements of social stratification. This brings us back to the reason that Air Jordan shoes that were purchased at Foot Locker were somehow more valuable then those purchased at K-Mart. Solely because the person could afford to pay the price. It was therefore more fashionable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I just wear skate shoes,&amp;nbsp;Dickie's&amp;nbsp;work pants, and button up shirts. I have a couple suits for&amp;nbsp;business, a fedora for fun, and that's about it. Funny how both you and I can avoid this particular&amp;nbsp;pitfall&amp;nbsp;with our monkey brains, and no one else can. Please, Neil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The price system is subject to corruption in other ways. Planned obsolescence and perceived obsolescence of goods is also built into this system to ensure that people are forever in stores moving inventory. Products are made to break down or to not be easily fixable intentionally for the sake of profit. The price to fix a given product is set in such a way to artificially make it more expensive to simply repair an item then it is to buy an entirely new item. The price system creates the motivation to do all of this contradictory to the ecological and environmental impact of such wanton production. Because it is a system for an economy with profit as the motivator producers of given products are encouraged to find as many ways to cut corners as much possible when it comes to ecological safety of their products. Products are made without recycling in mind because a product that is easy to take apart to be recycled is in many cases easy to repair. This would allow the consumer to simply repair their products rather then buying new ones.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Planned&amp;nbsp;obsolescence&amp;nbsp;was explained to you 500 times why it's false, but you continue to repeat this line like a&amp;nbsp;creationists&amp;nbsp;keeps repeating the tired debunked line about evolution defying the laws of physics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nOBD6v8g1F4?rel=0" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(starts at 4:07)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again, even if this was true in the system today, it's not possible in a system without&amp;nbsp;government&amp;nbsp;creating&amp;nbsp;barriers&amp;nbsp;to entry that would prevent another company that could make something last&amp;nbsp;indefinitely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The price system because it is based solely on the whims of consumers also permits the production of goods completely irrespective of the long term effects of using up given resources. The consumer at the counter of a store does not consider, nor are they encouraged to consider the long term implications of their purchases. What will buying all these plastic products do to the environment? What if this useless junk I am purchasing has resources in it that will be required for mankind's survival? What impact will the fact that I purchase a new I-Pod every year have on my grand children? Or their children? None of this is taken into account in the price system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You know what else the price system doesn't do? Tell you how to get dressed in the morning. Yea, fuck money.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No, wait. People don't need a price system that also includes environmental impact. People demand already to seek eco-friendly options by buying them when they come out. Entrepreneurs see this and start building more eco-friendly products for this emerging damand. We see this today, and Zeitgeisters play a role in all this new eco-friendly&amp;nbsp;technology&amp;nbsp;we see today by voting with their dollar. I have yet to see a Zetgiester rolling around in a Hummer. So, yea. Stupid. If someone could come up with a price system that also gave all kinds of information about how to use it and how it was made, awesome. No one is saying it does or should. That's up to us as consumers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Because you want to be able to offer your goods at the lowest possible prices the price system also encourages worker exploitation. Wal-Mart's goods made in sweat shop factories can be offered at a far lower price then products produced locally. And the profit motivated price system will only serve to perpetuate this. Outsourcing to more and more desperate economies where people are willing to accept a lifestyle no better then conventional slavery.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well if we weren't taxed to hell, having our money inflated, and had to have 2 working people in a household just for ends meat, we could afford to pay twice as much for a hat. If you don't want to support companies&amp;nbsp;outsourcing, then don't fucking shop at Wal-Mart!&amp;nbsp;It's not the companies that are forcing people out of work and out of&amp;nbsp;business&amp;nbsp;and outsourcing, it's the consumers who demand lower prices and support their&amp;nbsp;business&amp;nbsp;practices by buying those goods. There are thousands of companies that&amp;nbsp;successfully&amp;nbsp;compete with Wal-Mart, some of whom offer those goods in sweatshop-free factories. Don't blame Wal-Mart for&amp;nbsp;fulfilling&amp;nbsp;the wishes of their customers, blame the customers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Another example of corruption of the price model is when businesses collude to sell a vital product at an ever increasing price. Take the oil industry. The oil companies formed a cartel to cooperate on what the price of gasoline should be. They agreed to compete by no more then a few cents at the pump. The benefit of this is that profits in all of the oil companies collectively went up to record heights. It was to the benefit of everyone in the cartel to see this happen. And because gasoline is not an optional commodity they were able to get away with it. It was not as if the consumers could simply choose not to drive to work.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Stefan already showed you why this is bullshit, but I will go further.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;FUN FACTS ABOUT THE OIL INDUSTRY:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;The government enacts regulations that seem they are for 'protecting' people from bad&amp;nbsp;corporate&amp;nbsp;practices, but are in fact&amp;nbsp;designed&amp;nbsp;my big oil&amp;nbsp;lobbyists&amp;nbsp;to prevent new companies from entering the market place!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Oil companies collude with government help to set oil prices though a private agency known as OPEC. OPEC sets the prices of oil&amp;nbsp;arbitrarily. If one company dips below the price, they will be violating many national and international laws.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Oil&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;companies&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(and other companies) hire lobbyists to suppress&amp;nbsp;competition&amp;nbsp;in alternate energies by allowing for area monopolies to power companies and barring&amp;nbsp;competition&amp;nbsp;from the market place.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;The oil industry is anything but a free-enterprise, it's mercantilism. Can you find this in an area of even our current system that is at least half as regulated as oil. Oil is arguably the least free-market sector of our whole economy that isn't expressly a government body.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;A further proof of the price mechanism's failure is that outside of the stores that sell these products there are often homeless people lying on the street. People who could feed themselves for MONTHS if they had even a quarter of the money spent on a single item purchased at the prices above. When it comes to a system of allocating resources the billions of people starving on this planet are a testament to the absolute failure of the market system to give any option to these people. There is no mechanism in the market or the price system that will distribute resources to these people despite the fact that technologically we could provide for them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I'm sure this is true in that failed facio-socialist&amp;nbsp;paradise&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;Michigan, but not so much elsewhere in our failing system. Again, Detroit is hardly a free market anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;When attacking any centrally planned system, the Austrian economists point to examples such as the various instances of mass starvation supposedly created by centrally planned economies. They point to death camps and gulags as the inevitable solutions of failed centrally planned economies. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Bullshit. We know you won't have gulags and&amp;nbsp;concentration&amp;nbsp;camps, thats not what we're saying. We're pointing out people dying as a result of famines and miss allocation of other&amp;nbsp;resources&amp;nbsp;that caused people to flee the cities and build anarcho-primitivist&amp;nbsp;communes. NOT BECAUSE OF BRUTAL PSYCHOTIC DICATORS!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Mises and his disciples stated that centrally planned economies fail due to the fact that the resources would be distributed according to the “whims” of bureaucrats.&lt;/blockquote&gt;So whims of scientists and their computers? Science can't tell you who&amp;nbsp;deserves&amp;nbsp;cars over scooters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Disciples? Are we really going back to this bullshit argument of yours that we are religious and dogmatically accept everything he said? Normally I would over look this, but being that you have in the past said this, I think you are using the religious&amp;nbsp;definition&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;disciples.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mises laid out an argument that has shown to be correct that pro-central planning people have yet to show is&amp;nbsp;incorrect. By me asking for you to address this as your solution fits the requirements for failure, does not mean I fixed a portion of my closet as a shrine I religiously pray too. If you want to talk about sucking off idols' dicks, let's talk about how you eat up every fucking thing that comes out of Fresco's and Merola's pie hole and defend everything they say even if it means distorting your opposition's position to do it. So much in fact, that you gamble your&amp;nbsp;children's&amp;nbsp;lives off this thing taking off so you can milk enough donations to feed them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm going stop here and I know I'm going to sound like a total Zeitard for saying this but it's true. This is all straw mans and a false&amp;nbsp;dichotomy: &lt;i&gt;We advocate the current system which fails, the only choice now is R.B.E.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;So the rest of this misleading article I say the following;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's still not&amp;nbsp;addressing&amp;nbsp;the argument Mises proposed, it's a strawman. Mises never said it could work with fiat money or government intervention in the market place, you're just affirming his&amp;nbsp;thesis. Even still, this doesn't mean your system is the only possible solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to have a real debate with me, &lt;a href="http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/so-you-want-to-debate-me-on-zeitgeist.html"&gt;you now need to take my challenge&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and abide to a new set of rules just for you:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;You can only talk about the current system if that sector is fairly&amp;nbsp;unhampered (No oil,&amp;nbsp;pharmaceuticals, coal, agrocorps,...etc. If they have a powerful lobby is a good indicator you're not dealing with anything 'free')&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;We can't use the words: Dogma, dogmatic, dogmatically,&amp;nbsp;disciples, apostles, religious, religiously, cult, ..etc. It doesn't matter if RBE or Free-Market Economics are dogmatic or a cult, if in their assessments are right they are right.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;"The price system has no place for people who cannot find ways to be useful to people who have more." is the&amp;nbsp;threshold&amp;nbsp;of stupidity. Moronic statements like this only tell me I am wasting my time arguing with fools.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-5637726662202237968?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/5637726662202237968/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/addressing-v-radios-attempt-at-solving.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5637726662202237968'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5637726662202237968'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/addressing-v-radios-attempt-at-solving.html' title='Addressing V-Radio&apos;s Attempt at Solving the ECP. (FIX&apos;D)'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/nOBD6v8g1F4/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-8145965149318062108</id><published>2011-04-07T11:47:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-07T11:48:40.665-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Someone just asked..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;..what I think about the comment Prokofy Neva said. I don't. I started reading it, but it went right back into her paranoid delusions that I used alts to greif her, that I killed her chickens blah blah blah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really don't care what a 54 year old fat typical self-important New Yorker who, on top of that, suffers from&amp;nbsp;narcissistic&amp;nbsp;personality disorder and thinks things that happen in a video game as "terrorism." Prok, play your stupid video games, I don't give a shit about you and never really have. I'm going to use a list system built into all blogs which you have yet to figure out and still use 'o's like a middle school thesis on why prom will be awesome this year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;I never crashed your sims or "greifed" you at your meetings (unless you say my presence alone is greifing which is to then re-write a words deffinition like a cult leader. ) I have never organized, planned,&amp;nbsp;executed&amp;nbsp;via me or by proxy: &amp;nbsp;sim&amp;nbsp;crashing, chicken killings*, text/sound spamming, prim litter, or client crashes to you or anyone renting land from you ever in my life. She continues to make this baseless claim with evidence a that even conspiracy theorist nutjob would shrug off as being inconclusive. Ohh I was a security expert that heard the PN was going to crash your sim so I show up to attempt to stop it.... or was I really planning with a group who tried to find humiliating things about me the whole time BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Retard.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I never made a mock Twitter account of anyone, in fact in California this might be a violation of state law. Also making Twitter Bots is beyond me. Never tried, never even looked into how to go about it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I am not Jim Korpov. I can't prove a&amp;nbsp;negative. Her asking for proof of a&amp;nbsp;negative&amp;nbsp;just shows how retarded or dishonest she is. She needs to prove the positive claim. If she denies this then she can try to give me proof that Bigfoot and Unicorns do not exist. Also Jim Korpov lives in Kansas still, I moved to California. Anyone who know us knows we're different. We have talked to each other over voice&amp;nbsp;numerous&amp;nbsp;times in front of countless people. Also think I'm him, I could give a rat's ass about your delusions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Calling someone a cunt on your own restricted sim is not a Community Standards issue.&amp;nbsp;Period. As much as she wants to pretend it is.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I never said she was the 50 year old lady in question was you. LL verified over the phone with me that this couldn't of been why.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I already explained why Charity was banned, if she wants to continue under the delusion of it was banned for greifing her, she's free to do so. I just ask why she hasn't been taking those pills the doctors across the street at the mental health clinic asked her to.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;*Which by her own&amp;nbsp;Keynesian&amp;nbsp;economic opinions should be a good thing. Breaking stuff =&amp;nbsp;prosperity.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is the last time I interact with this cunt. I'm not in SL, nor do I care about your drama anymore. If your sims crash and chickens die, then good. You feed and bait trolls and greifers and then they greif and troll you, I WONDER WHY? Don't paint a big red target on your ass and complain someone shot an arrow at it. Then don't say the person who saw you get arrowed was in on the conspiracy. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This time there is a conspiracy, right here right now. If there are people who are&amp;nbsp;interested&amp;nbsp;in trolling a chemically&amp;nbsp;imbalanced&amp;nbsp;50 year old fat cunt&amp;nbsp;lunatic, &lt;a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Prokofy_Neva"&gt;all the information you need to do it is right here.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;If you do, tell her you did it because I said so. If you wanna know how to crash sims, I can't help you. After I&amp;nbsp;stopped&amp;nbsp;working security, I stopped caring how sim crashing was possible to figure out how to stop it. I'm sure you can Google or ask someone.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-8145965149318062108?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/8145965149318062108/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/someone-just-asked.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8145965149318062108'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8145965149318062108'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/someone-just-asked.html' title='Someone just asked..'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-8800077549509060621</id><published>2011-04-06T00:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-06T00:03:15.014-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Why I was banned.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Case: XXXXXXXXXX&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Avatar:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Type: Reactivate an old Account&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Status: Waiting for Customer Acceptance&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hello,&amp;nbsp;Charity Nexen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;I am sorry to hear that you are having issues with logging into your account today. I would be more than happy to assist you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;After reviewing your account, it&amp;nbsp;appears that your account has been placed on&amp;nbsp;hold for&amp;nbsp;administrative review because we are concerned about your &lt;b&gt;close links to at least one other Second Life account that has had trouble with our Terms of Service.&lt;/b&gt; We are deeply sorry for&amp;nbsp;any inconvenience to accounts that have not violated the Terms of Service.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Below you will find a link&amp;nbsp;to an article that explains&amp;nbsp;how to appeal this decision. Please make sure you carefully read over the wiki page in its entirety.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:My_account_has_been_unfairly_or_incorrectly_suspended_or_permanently_closed_by_Linden_Lab_--_how_can_I_appeal_this_decision" style="color: #005488;" target="_blank"&gt;http://wiki.secondlife.com/&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:My_&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;account_has_been_unfairly_or_&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;incorrectly_suspended_or_&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;permanently_closed_by_Linden_&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;Lab_--_how_can_I_appeal_this_&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;decision&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;As part of the appeal process, we will need you to provide to us a list of all alternate accounts (including accounts that are not currently active, and perhaps any accounts used by members of your household) as well a valid scanned copy of your ID. The following ID types are accepted:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;1. Driver License&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;2. State/National ID&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;3. Passport&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;4. Birth Certificate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Please make sure that the file is no larger than 5MB in size and attach the file to this support case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;To attach a file to your case:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;1. Click the Comment button.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;2. Click the Attach a file link.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;3. Browse for the file on your computer and click Open.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;4. To attach another file, click the Attach another file link.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;5. Click the Submit button.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;6. The files you specified will be uploaded and attached to the case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Once we have received this information, we will review your case and account and respond back to you as soon as possible. Please be aware that your account may not be eligible for release, based on the investigation of account activity and your links to other high-risk accounts. Either way, we will let you know.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Regards,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;DeanT Scout&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Linden Lab Support&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;To reply to this case, either Reply to this email, or visit :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;It had nothing to do with disclosure. It had to do with a connection to an unknown person. Not Codizzo Hax, though. You see, he wasn't banned nor was Jim Kaprov. I am Jim Kaprov in her paranoid delusion because there can only be 1 Jim in Witchita, KS. Even though I have been living in Hollywood, CA for the last 5 months. Calling someone a cunt in a mature sim by a member of the owner group is not a Community Standard violation. Prokofy had&amp;nbsp;committed&amp;nbsp;5 counts of disclosure in-world at her damn meetings that I personally saw and AR'd. I lowball'd her age (she's 65, not 50) and made no real&amp;nbsp;reference&amp;nbsp;to her identity which she boasts in-world for which there's&amp;nbsp;numerous&amp;nbsp;documentation of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The real reason I was banned; Only Linden Lab knows and they just want to see my papers for some creepy Orwellian reason. Which is the true reason I will not go back. Second Life is a surveillance police state who takes Prokofy seriously. This cannot end well. So good luck arranging the deck chairs on the titanic there Rodvik. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prokofy is a&amp;nbsp;lunatic who makes bullshit&amp;nbsp;libelous&amp;nbsp;statements about me and others, and there's nothing I can do. Because of her history of making&amp;nbsp;outrageous&amp;nbsp;insane&amp;nbsp;comments&amp;nbsp;regularly, I could not prove in court that she is&amp;nbsp;deliberately&amp;nbsp;lying about me and honestly believer's her paranoid delusions. So all I can do is laugh and show everyone she's past due for her lithium and shrug it off.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;U mad, Prokofy? Go blog about it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-8800077549509060621?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/8800077549509060621/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/why-i-was-banned.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8800077549509060621'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8800077549509060621'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/why-i-was-banned.html' title='Why I was banned.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-3441630187876683865</id><published>2011-04-05T10:40:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-05T10:40:35.431-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I remember...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I remember when Obama promised us he wouldn't rush into a war like Bush did. I remember when Obama said the first thing he'd do as president was close Gitmo. I remember when Obama he would reduce/eliminate deficit spending and balance the budget. I remember Obama promising to stop the DEA raids of medical marijuana dispensaries. I remember Obama saying he was change I could believe in. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lesson learned: Democrats and Republicans promise the world and NEVER deliver. Stop voting for them. Bush was an incoherent serpent while Obama is a serpent with a soothing golden tongue that lulls the masses to sleep. The Republican who wins the nomination will be no better and no worse than Obama.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you must play into the violent charade of freedom called 'voting,' whatever you do, don't vote for Obama, Palin, McCain, Bachmann, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Daniels, Gengritch, Giuliani, Huckabee, Huntsmen, Jindal, Moore, Pataki, Pawlenty, Reily, Roemer, Romney, or Scarboroh. They all have identical track records; Promise something, and do the opposite when elected.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-3441630187876683865?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/3441630187876683865/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/i-remember.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/3441630187876683865'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/3441630187876683865'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/i-remember.html' title='I remember...'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1239771671530378904</id><published>2011-04-04T02:00:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-04T02:04:11.381-05:00</updated><title type='text'>voiceofreason467 is not a racist... anymore.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I thought I would update it because he does not hold those views anymore according to him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="content" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; width: 450px;"&gt;&lt;div class="comment-text" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;a class="watch-comment-atlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=machwon" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #4272db; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;@machwon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;You wanna know what my view on race is now? RACES DO NOT EXIST!!! They are a social construct created to prevent black slaves from uniting with people who are white and saw the injustice behind the issue of slavery. That is my view RIGHT NOW! Guess what, people change their view points. Calling me a﻿ racist today on a comment I made in 2007, is fucking laughable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="metadata" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #666666; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 0.6;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;a class="author" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/voiceofreason467" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #4272db; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;" title="voiceofreason467"&gt;voiceofreason467&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #666666; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 0.6;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #666666; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 0.6;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #666666; font-size: 0.9166em; line-height: 0.6;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As you can see, it was him who said those things and now does not subscribe to them. However, he still is lying about it being him who said it. One step at a time I guess.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1239771671530378904?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/1239771671530378904/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/voiceofreason467-is-not-racist-anymore.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1239771671530378904'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1239771671530378904'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/voiceofreason467-is-not-racist-anymore.html' title='voiceofreason467 is not a racist... anymore.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1346708295000444362</id><published>2011-03-31T17:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-31T17:08:09.408-05:00</updated><title type='text'>THE ZEIENTOLOGY MOVEMENT?!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Guys, this video you are using to promote The Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project is a propaghanda peice from The Church of Scientology's front group Youth for Human Rights.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The videoin question, notice the comments and video&amp;nbsp;description:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQWwkERit4"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQWwkERit4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where the video came from:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youthforhumanrights.org/what-are-human-rights.html"&gt;http://www.youthforhumanrights.org/what-are-human-rights.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Proof it's a Scientology group:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.scientology.org/activity/human-rights/human-rights.html"&gt;http://www.scientology.org/activity/human-rights/human-rights.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What the hell are you doing promoting The Church Scientology?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1346708295000444362?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/1346708295000444362/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/zeientology-movement.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1346708295000444362'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1346708295000444362'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/zeientology-movement.html' title='THE ZEIENTOLOGY MOVEMENT?!'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-239635630602758078</id><published>2011-03-29T00:46:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-29T01:05:00.263-05:00</updated><title type='text'>TVPChallenge Responds...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;UPDATE: I got this message from TVPChallenge:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;(FYI, this isn't the vid I was telling you about, addressing the ECP and the value system.) YT uploads really slow, so I may not get those up 'til tomorrow, since I'll have to go to bed soon =/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;So this isn't the video addressing the ECP, but in these videos ECP is addressed. Just note this isn't her offical retort.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...well not really. This is again just rehashing the mistakes Peter Joesph Merola in response to Stefan Molyneux with some other errors sprinkled in.&amp;nbsp;Look, I appreciate any attempts to solve this riddle that has confused some of the brightest minds that have ever supported any sort of centrally planned economy. This riddle is still let unanswered even in wake of this video.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why? Because there is no answer to this question, it's just assured that all will be well once we hand over the keys to a select group of&amp;nbsp;engineers&amp;nbsp;and then they will be&amp;nbsp;responsible&amp;nbsp;for this burden. Now even with that said, it's the closest I got to a rational response on the economic calculation problem I have heard from any Zeitgeister because on the surface it seems as though it is addressing the problem, but it's really not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sKpau1Dx6DQ?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VUbBgkE5v7Q?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Their misunderstanding of basic economics regarding planned&amp;nbsp;obsolescence and&amp;nbsp;being &lt;b&gt;FORCED&lt;/b&gt; to participate in the&amp;nbsp;monetary&amp;nbsp;system (which is patently absurd considering the&amp;nbsp;numerous&amp;nbsp;ways one can 'live off the grid') are really&amp;nbsp;irrelevant&amp;nbsp;even if they are true.&amp;nbsp;Why? To say we're going to take a 'scientific' approach instead of this isn't answering how we approach this, it's just saying "We don't know now, but we'll figure it out when the time comes."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No. Not only is this a non-argument, it's unscientific. It's unscientific to use the science to reach a particular&amp;nbsp;predetermined&amp;nbsp;conclusion. How do we know that the scientific consensus after we get to R.B.E. Land is "Sorry, we need money?" Will we force science to comply with no money our&amp;nbsp;ideology? Well then fine, but let's not pretend we still talking about science anymore, we're talking about&lt;b&gt; pseudo&lt;/b&gt;science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZA60XMkCzU/TZFmTFZ-YCI/AAAAAAAAAjY/EpgZRIm_f3s/s1600/CA230_1Trever.gif" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="238" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZA60XMkCzU/TZFmTFZ-YCI/AAAAAAAAAjY/EpgZRIm_f3s/s320/CA230_1Trever.gif" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;It's taking a lot of restraint for me to get distracted by this videos attempt to divert and steer the conversation away from free-market to the current system. The utterly stupid debunked arguments that Marxists have been putting out for 100 years, that just fails in the face of reality. Peter Joseph Merola is a master in&amp;nbsp;propaganda, so it's his forte to never admit any kind of error and divert legitimate criticism into a set line of shop talking points. When he does get nailed to a corner about the free market, he delves into a classic reductio ad absurdum logical fail.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So does this answer the economic calculation problem? No, you' re promising me that your supercomputer and your team of engineers will figure out the problem when the time comes. How about figuring out a solution before promoting it as the end all be all of human evolution? Hm?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's say tomorrow and everyone agrees that maybe they were wrong about the Zeitgeist movie and we need the RBE and they want it now, what algorithm will you install in your computer to distribute goods? That's the question we're asking. How EXACTLY will it work? How EXACTLY can you calculate an iPhone4 minus a cheeseburger? Not give me a hazy idea on how it could work, and pretend it's an answer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CO4L7LKOZ-I?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now before you respond to this and attack my position; may I remind you that 'debunking' free-market economics, even if valid, does not mean that we should all hop on-board. Ergo I will not respond to attacks on the free-market, because it is&amp;nbsp;irrelevant. You need to show me the&amp;nbsp;algorithm&amp;nbsp;if this is your argument.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-239635630602758078?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/239635630602758078/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/tvpchallenge-responds.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/239635630602758078'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/239635630602758078'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/tvpchallenge-responds.html' title='TVPChallenge Responds...'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/sKpau1Dx6DQ/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-5376135835907104575</id><published>2011-03-20T08:52:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-21T14:11:16.939-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='anarchocaptialism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The venus project'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the zeitgeist movement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='zeitgeist'/><title type='text'>I got a bite.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Sort of. Socialists and&amp;nbsp;communists&amp;nbsp;for decades have attempted to confront Mises on his Economic Calculation Problem but miss the point of what Mises argument is. Otto Neurath, an Austrian-born (not Austrian school, thought I should clarify, the "article" they created gives the impression to someone Otto was a free-marketeer who disagreed with Mises) socialist economist who attempted to debate Mises is what they went with for a rebuttal. Otto concludes that a new system of calculation can develop in in place of missing prices. Zeitards contend that their super computer will somehow work itself out, once we find the right&amp;nbsp;algorithm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To this day, Austrian economists still contend Mises has not been addressed, even with citing Otto's attempt. Why? The calculation problem isn't about how complex the problem of distributing&amp;nbsp;resources&amp;nbsp;without a price system, it's about marginal utility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jacob Spinney has already addressed this in one of his videos, so I'll save myself typing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CLSxITH-1tE?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Update:&lt;br /&gt;For a more in-depth explanation which includes addressing Otto Neurath's argument, I provided you with a lecture by Joseph T. Salerno who wrote the post-script to Mises' article. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/b7zzH8ruLDc?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-5376135835907104575?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/5376135835907104575/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/i-got-bite.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5376135835907104575'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5376135835907104575'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/i-got-bite.html' title='I got a bite.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/CLSxITH-1tE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-8042384523043932091</id><published>2011-03-18T15:28:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-18T15:28:34.747-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Zeitgeist Altruism in Wake of The Japanese Earthquake/Tsunami.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dvb1Vf7dS6I?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-8042384523043932091?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/8042384523043932091/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/zeitgeist-altruism-in-wake-of-japanese.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8042384523043932091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8042384523043932091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/zeitgeist-altruism-in-wake-of-japanese.html' title='Zeitgeist Altruism in Wake of The Japanese Earthquake/Tsunami.'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/dvb1Vf7dS6I/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-6480180653961861664</id><published>2011-03-15T16:34:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-04T02:01:53.516-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A few more things for voiceofreason467</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;UPDATE: VOR is not a racist anymore, &lt;a href="http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/04/voiceofreason467-is-not-racist-anymore.html"&gt;just a liar&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Devan Evans, a.k.a. Voice of 'Reason' has a dark secret some people do not know about. He's a liar. Pure and simple. He is not just a liar in that I&amp;nbsp;caught&amp;nbsp;him making some mistakes that are possibly lies, no. He is a liar of the highest order. He will go though great lengths to cover them up once they are exposed. He is also a racist. I can back those statements up with irrefutable evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now watch this video blow, as KeithTruth exposes him as being a racist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dzDdwZO8hL4?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After he was exposed again, he went and made his old account '&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/MicroGod1011001"&gt;MicroGod1011001&lt;/a&gt;', in which he used to have Mac vs. PC debates on, into a sock puppet. In the&amp;nbsp;saying he was a "I mainly work in Hollywood doing 3D Design Art for movies, and a little basic video editing on the side." Yea right, and those were put together no better than any of my videos, and I'm still very&amp;nbsp;amateur. He also posts a picture of "himself" which turned out at the time, was one of the pictures in a Google search for "black guy." Feel free to watch them, but it's total bullshit and I have proof. Now, to this day he denies he's MicroGod.&amp;nbsp;Unfortunately&amp;nbsp;for him, the first video on his account he states this is his account and that is where people should post Mac vs. PC debates. To add more insult to injury, the name on the account is "Voice" as is &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/voiceofreason467"&gt;voiceofreason467&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bNrHxrZmEiY?hd=1&amp;amp;start=213" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;(oh, and Devan, I backed this up in case you decide to delete or private this video)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the question to him now is; Why would I debate someone who is a racist who will go though such&amp;nbsp;lengths&amp;nbsp;to cover up your mistakes? Someone who is obviously not going to admit he made an error in his reasoning that is trying to convince me that his plans for&amp;nbsp;tomorrow&amp;nbsp;is superior, why would I even bother having a dialog with that person?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is why I blocked you. You have no substance or meaningful dialog. You use distortion and strawmans to 'expose' other peoples valid criticisms, or as you put it 'strawman Argumentation's." You are a joke. You are an&amp;nbsp;embarrassment&amp;nbsp;to yourself. You are a&amp;nbsp;deliberate&amp;nbsp;and pathological liar. You are a bigot. You are a mental midget. You are predictable in your dishonesty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So let me address what I know you will respond with:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WAOxY_nHdew?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HNiThvRTmuA?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-6480180653961861664?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/6480180653961861664/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/few-more-things-for-voiceofreason467.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/6480180653961861664'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/6480180653961861664'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/few-more-things-for-voiceofreason467.html' title='A few more things for voiceofreason467'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/dzDdwZO8hL4/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-5929581144883022817</id><published>2011-03-14T21:49:00.014-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-25T03:17:49.421-06:00</updated><title type='text'>So You Want To Debate Me on Zeitgeist, eh? (UPDATED)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;UPDATE: I have reduced the requirement for this challenge. See below.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently a skeptic blogger Muertos issued a challenge to The Zeitgeist movement in this video:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XiC-sBeQ7KE?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In it he sites a book that discusses proposals by other futurists with concepts identical&amp;nbsp;concepts&amp;nbsp;as The Venus Project and how they do not work and always transitions with violence no matter if they advocate it or not. The book he sites is James C. Scott's "Seeing Like A State." He will not debate anyone from The Venus Project or The Zeitgeist Movement unless they have read this book first so they understand his position first. This is a more than reasonable request&amp;nbsp;considering&amp;nbsp;Zeitards demand you watch 2 long Zeitgeist Films. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I decided this was&amp;nbsp;absolutely&amp;nbsp;a great idea for me too. I haven't read the book in question just yet, but I will propose my own challenge to the Zeitgeist/Venus Project community. I have a hard time nailing these guys down to one subject at a time, or tossing straw man arguments regarding my position. My main objection to The Venus Project is&amp;nbsp;predominantly&amp;nbsp;the economic calculation problem in&amp;nbsp;socialized&amp;nbsp;systems as proposed by Mises. The argument is this; in a centrally planned economy, and more so in cashless economies, you cannot properly gauge where&amp;nbsp;resources should be allocated unless you turn these heterogeneous things into something homogeneous that reflect the most up-to-date needs as a organic free-market price system. A central computer, no mater how smart, can not correctly calculate an iPhone4 minus a cheeseburger unless there is a bottom up price system that reflects the time, energy, resources,&amp;nbsp;incentives&amp;nbsp;and demands to&amp;nbsp;fulfill&amp;nbsp;the needs of the&amp;nbsp;consumer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example let's say on a very small scale we wanted to make a small calculation. What should we make given we can only create so much in a small amount of time, given limited resources. An iPhone4 for person #003443 or a cheeseburger for&amp;nbsp;person #003533&amp;nbsp;and have extra time and&amp;nbsp;resources&amp;nbsp;to spare for other requests. Unless there is a system that reflects to both the&amp;nbsp;consumer&amp;nbsp;and the producer the true time, energy, resources, demand and scarcity that is&amp;nbsp;homogeneous, you would not know what to calculate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;iPhone4 = $399.99. Cheeseburger = $2.99&lt;br /&gt;So iPhone4 - Cheeseburger = $397.00&lt;br /&gt;iPhone4 - Cheeseburger&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: x-small; line-height: 15px;"&gt;≠&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;iPhone 3Gs&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to fall in line with black and white thinking when I bring this up to TZM people. If I&amp;nbsp;disagree&amp;nbsp;with their system then I support the 'status-quo.' Nothing could be further from the truth for me, and if Mises were alive today he would have nothing but bad things to say about how the American Government has been doing since his death. So it's a moot point bringing up criticisms of the current system we all share.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Now, because of the type of non-responses I get I am now issuing my own price of admission for this debate. It's cheaper than&amp;nbsp;Muertos' read a whole 400 page book price, but it's equally as challenging. Read the 50 page article and postscript to &lt;a href="http://mises.org/econcalc.asp"&gt;Economic Calculation In The Socialist Commonwealth by Ludwig von Mises&lt;/a&gt;. It &amp;nbsp;was written before Mr. Fresco was even born, but it doesn't negate the overarching problem with The Venus Project; whats an iPhone4 minus a cheeseburger in a world with no prices?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After you have read the book you may not argue with me any of these points:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;This is&amp;nbsp;different, he's talking about socialism, this is a straw man!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;Not really, he's talking about ideas proposed by socialists that The Venus Project has adopted into the R.B.E.; central planning of an economy. Now explain how socialist calculation problem does not apply in an R.B.E.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Price is controlled by the Federal Reserve inflating the money supply.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;Right, however Mises is not in favor or arguing for fiat currency. Fiat money cannot be a true reflection of marginal utility and is causing a lot of the problems we're seeing today. There's a vast array of workable non-coercive&amp;nbsp;value based monetary systems that have been tried or are still being used today to see as examples.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;You do not understand The Venus Project, do your research.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;I think I have done a fair job of understanding it, please tell me where I am wrong on my assessment of the economic model as it is pertaining&amp;nbsp;to The Venus Project. Enlighten me, don't make&amp;nbsp;empty&amp;nbsp;rebuttals. Also if there is a key&amp;nbsp;piece&amp;nbsp;of information I neglected to notice, don't tell me to go though a stack of information and find it. If you know where it is, point it out to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;How does the current...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Let me stop you there, we're not talking about the current disasters. We both share your criticism of the current model in America. The issue is your solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;No wait, how does this current system help the starving people in Africa?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;The current system in America is not the cause of starvation in Africa. Africa is suffering from the same&amp;nbsp;ideology&amp;nbsp;Mises was advocating against; central planning. It's also an&amp;nbsp;appeal&amp;nbsp;to emotions, making me feel bad about people suffering in&amp;nbsp;foreign&amp;nbsp;lands does not mean we should go along with the R.B.E.. I feel bad kids are starving in Africa, so let us not have more of what's killing them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;How does the "invisible hand of the market" work other than a God-of-the-gaps fallacy?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;This tells me not only have you not read the paper, but not read anything regarding Austrian Economics. &lt;a href="http://mises.org/econcalc.asp"&gt;Please read the paper&lt;/a&gt;, then discuss it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oh, I get it. You think we're Communists with robots! Hahaha! Please, it's not Communism you're just using a Red Scare tactic.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;No, it has to do with&amp;nbsp;empirical&amp;nbsp;observation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/econcalc.asp"&gt;Please read the paper&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;I don't want to read that paper, I'll just go by your summary.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;No read, no debate, no exceptions. In this paper they address many objections you will bring up. Why should I explain what the paper already said about your argument. I'm not your mother, read it yourself. &amp;nbsp;If you object to reading, I have an &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/machwon#grid/user/A26D176079DF8657"&gt;audio book version on YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;for you. If I watched 8 hours of Peter&amp;nbsp;Joesph&amp;nbsp;Merola movies for you and you won't read for 2-3 hours for me then you're not worth my time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if you think your system can stand up to the test if rational&amp;nbsp;discourse&amp;nbsp;and not blind faith, read the paper and spank me&amp;nbsp;intellectually. I'll take 2 kinds of&amp;nbsp;correspondence, Skype or e-mail. Just leave a&amp;nbsp;comment&amp;nbsp;below. Remember: I will record/log the entire discussion and present it on this blog and/or my &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/machwon"&gt;YouTube Channel&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;UPDATE: I have reduced the requirement for this challenge. All you need to do is watch this 1 videos in it's entirety.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/alqUqdbfxhk" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-5929581144883022817?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/5929581144883022817/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/so-you-want-to-debate-me-on-zeitgeist.html#comment-form' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5929581144883022817'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/5929581144883022817'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/so-you-want-to-debate-me-on-zeitgeist.html' title='So You Want To Debate Me on Zeitgeist, eh? (UPDATED)'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/XiC-sBeQ7KE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-2915561614440749911</id><published>2011-03-13T01:46:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-03-13T01:47:39.839-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='peter joseph merola'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='idiot'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='peter joseph'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='austrian economics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The venus project'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prokofy neva'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the zeitgeist movement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='voiceofreason467'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='racist'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='marxist'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='zeitgeist'/><title type='text'>Here it is! (Sorry I flaked)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Well I can't post the first video in the series because he made it private and not even I can view it. Telling...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4PJklzbDVBY?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He responds, kind of. Also we get to enjoy 7 minutes of him reading! &amp;gt;.&amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1TzIWd0FElE?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XtQLBlYEQ5A?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kARPPri-9lk?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/eI2-KIBkbFw?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This was an indirect response. After I made that last video, I decided I will no longer communicate with this guy. Turns out the guy is a racist, and when he was called out on it he started making sock accounts to cover his tracks and got busted again.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/K-kkzDKnOrY?hd=1" title="YouTube video player" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-2915561614440749911?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/2915561614440749911/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/here-it-is-sorry-i-flaked.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/2915561614440749911'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/2915561614440749911'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/here-it-is-sorry-i-flaked.html' title='Here it is! (Sorry I flaked)'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/4PJklzbDVBY/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1092536273544001746</id><published>2011-03-02T20:50:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-03-02T20:50:29.531-06:00</updated><title type='text'>An Update! (Cali, baby!)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Ok, I think i'm almost done settling into my new place in Hollywood Hills, CA. Over the last week I have been&amp;nbsp;battling&amp;nbsp;another group of deluded assholes known as The Zeitgeist Movement.&amp;nbsp;Tomorrow&amp;nbsp;I will post up the video debates I've been&amp;nbsp;having.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1092536273544001746?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/1092536273544001746/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/update-cali-baby.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1092536273544001746'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1092536273544001746'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2011/03/update-cali-baby.html' title='An Update! (Cali, baby!)'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-8631342719203917153</id><published>2010-11-15T08:43:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-11-15T08:43:30.314-06:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;embed flashvars="host=picasaweb.google.com&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;feat=flashalbum&amp;amp;RGB=0x000000&amp;amp;feed=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasaweb.google.com%2Fdata%2Ffeed%2Fapi%2Fuser%2Fmachwon%2Falbumid%2F5536903054560793985%3Falt%3Drss%26kind%3Dphoto%26hl%3Den_US" height="267" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" src="http://picasaweb.google.com/s/c/bin/slideshow.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="400"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-8631342719203917153?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/8631342719203917153/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/11/blog-post.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8631342719203917153'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8631342719203917153'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/11/blog-post.html' title=''/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-1066777528677949874</id><published>2010-11-03T13:12:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-03T13:12:12.433-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Site Downtime and Lesson Learned</title><content type='html'>If you have a Google domain and get a new credit card, update it on Google Checkout A.S.A.P. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other news, stay tuned as I document my trip back to California worth pics and videos. Well be in L.A., anything I should record our visit?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-1066777528677949874?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/1066777528677949874/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/11/site-downtime-and-lesson-learned.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1066777528677949874'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/1066777528677949874'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/11/site-downtime-and-lesson-learned.html' title='Site Downtime and Lesson Learned'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-4585515806505621634</id><published>2010-10-05T19:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-05T19:59:54.121-05:00</updated><title type='text'>How to Win Political Arguments with the 'Against Me' Argument by Stefan Molyneux</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="500" height="306"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UD_1nbahAts?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UD_1nbahAts?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="306"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-4585515806505621634?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/4585515806505621634/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/10/how-to-win-political-arguments-with.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4585515806505621634'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4585515806505621634'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/10/how-to-win-political-arguments-with.html' title='How to Win Political Arguments with the &apos;Against Me&apos; Argument by Stefan Molyneux'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-8851424726213640859</id><published>2010-09-27T08:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-09-27T08:36:26.287-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Tom Newton Still is Butt-Hurt</title><content type='html'>Jacob Vigil, a.k.a. Tom Newton, is back jocking my dick. Don't ask me why, I don't know. Considering I have been&amp;nbsp;intentionality&amp;nbsp;been avoiding Scientology stuff recently as my main focus is getting out of Kansas and back into school full time. However it doesn't stop him from being a total cockwad and post obviously bullshit blog posts about me &lt;a href="http://cyberhaters.blogspot.com/2010/08/reverend-internet-jim-jesus-smokes.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://cyberhaters.blogspot.com/2010/08/anonymous-member-smoking-cat-feces.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; on his retarded new blog (because his old blog was taken down by Google for violating TOS)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It doesn't take a&amp;nbsp;theoretical&amp;nbsp;physicist&amp;nbsp;to see that I don't smoke cat shit or crack cocaine, as the blog&amp;nbsp;describes, and such information was pulled directly out of his ass.&amp;nbsp;Ironically&amp;nbsp;that's where most of Hubbard got his discoveries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A lawyer I know has informed me I am able to file a federal lawsuit against him as John Doe and&amp;nbsp;subpoena&amp;nbsp;his personal information from Google as I have a&amp;nbsp;coarse&amp;nbsp;of action against him. However I have decided against it due to the fact he's not worth my time or effort. However if you are so inclined to take action against him I can refer you the same advice he gave me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-L0dSEZFuYM?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-L0dSEZFuYM?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-8851424726213640859?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/8851424726213640859/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/09/tom-newton-still-is-butt-hurt.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8851424726213640859'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/8851424726213640859'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/09/tom-newton-still-is-butt-hurt.html' title='Tom Newton Still is Butt-Hurt'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-4429137126106895119</id><published>2010-01-29T22:07:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-29T22:10:12.110-06:00</updated><title type='text'>JimJesus.com won a HookahDomain Award for Best Blog of 2009?</title><content type='html'>Great! Now all 10 active members of HookahDomain will be tuned in to my blog I rarely update. I wonder if I can get a badge for my page so people can try to find a reason to care about such a laughable award. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps I just just forget about it and start doing more blog posts.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8085228240779540384-4429137126106895119?l=www.jimjesus.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/feeds/4429137126106895119/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/01/jimjesuscom-won-hookahdomain-award-for.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4429137126106895119'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8085228240779540384/posts/default/4429137126106895119'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.jimjesus.com/2010/01/jimjesuscom-won-hookahdomain-award-for.html' title='JimJesus.com won a HookahDomain Award for Best Blog of 2009?'/><author><name>Jim Jesus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00024233335163076561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wveCksMOm3Q/TqjfpaF_zxI/AAAAAAAABOg/u_GNV81-iFk/s220/liono.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8085228240779540384.post-7224286368764596308</id><published>2009-12-06T12:26:00.004-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T12:55:08.779-06:00</updated><title type='text'>9/11 Truthers: TAKE HEED! I AM WATCHING YOU!</title><content type='html'>You know 9/11 Truth is pretty much phased out. Most of the smart ones left a while ago and most of the ones left are the really crazy ones. Though there are still some smart ones out there. I never understood the point in impeaching the government legitimacy with saying with scant evidence that most people will never accept even if it was true that shows the government is responsible for the deaths of 3,000 people. Especially when you have hard evidence and admition of the slaughtering of millions of people overseas based on a lie. &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUm6aPytDqs"&gt;Stefan Molyneux&lt;/a&gt; put it in an interesting slant. If you were the procecutor on a case with a murderer who has an overwhelming amount video and physical evidence evidence, DNA samples that match and a written confession would you argue that this man needs to be jailed because he was the gunman on the Grassy Knoll who killed JFK with all kinds of evidence that is too complex for the lay jury that is scant? No. So why do 9/11 Truthers do the same thing when they try to argue against expansive state power? &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Or even better: Why would they do that knowing there are those around them who they share a similar agreement with who are bat shit insane that shits all over your argument before you have a chance to rationally explain it to someone who is now already unconvinced because of bad version of the argument? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A lot of the people who are most vocal for 9/11 Truth are the less rational ones. The people who think jews did it. The people tho think shape-shifting lizard people from space did it. Why bother? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Today I ran into the most interesting one of all, in Second Life. So I had some fun tinkering with his paranoia. I wonder if it's impersonating an officer if you flat out tell them your not a government agent, he refuses to believe you, then have fun while refusing to answer his repeated asking. Either way, this is how most of us view 9/11 Truthers. Enjoy. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;-------------METANOMICS CHAT----------------&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:37]  LuciferSatan Genira: ALIENSPEAKING!  http://slurl.com/secondlife/Murrumbidgee/52/99/77 SCRATCH, LIVE, 12 TURNTABLES, 5 DJS&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;--------------Free State Project Chat--------------------&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:37]  LuciferSatan Genira: ALIENSPEAKING!  http://slurl.com/secondlife/Murrumbidgee/52/99/77 SCRATCH, LIVE, 12 TURNTABLES, 5 DJS&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:38]  Charity Stohr: noone wants to goto your stupid pubbie bullshit.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:39]  LuciferSatan Genira: its a live set&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:39]  LuciferSatan Genira: http://www.alienspeaking.com&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:39]  Charity Stohr: noone cares.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:39]  Charity Stohr: die in a fire&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:39]  LuciferSatan Genira: thats not true&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:39]  LuciferSatan Genira: theres a bunch of us activists here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;-------------METANOMICS CHAT----------------&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:39]  Charity Stohr: can we ban this guy now?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:41]  LuciferSatan Genira: shes a stalker of mine&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:41]  LuciferSatan Genira: http://www.alienspeaking.com:666&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:42]  Charity Stohr: i've been in the metanomics group for quite a while now, and we're sick of your spam&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;--------------Free State Project Chat--------------------&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:40]  Charity Stohr: 9/11 truthers are idiots, not activists&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:42]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are a stupid bitch&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:43]  Charity Stohr: lol, ok&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:43]  LuciferSatan Genira: do you know what the maximum speed of a boeng 747-200 is?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:43]  Charity Stohr: someone who wastes his time investigating somethign that didn't happen with no possible ending that could suffice a chase for proof&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:43]  LuciferSatan Genira: 254 mph at 700 feet altitude&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:44]  LuciferSatan Genira: so says the leading engineer of the aircrafts engine&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:44]  Charity Stohr: if your argument the government is evil and kills lots of people, you don't need to bring up conspiracy theroies&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:44]  LuciferSatan Genira: do you know how fast the planes were actually traveling?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:45]  LuciferSatan Genira: according to the federal emergency management association..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:45]  Charity Stohr: every structual engeneer has stated on record a plane can bring down a building&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:45]  LuciferSatan Genira: the planes were traveling at 590 mph&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:45]  Charity Stohr: steel doesn't need to melt to loose structural integrety&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:45]  LuciferSatan Genira: that means they WERE NOT boening 747-200s&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:45]  Charity Stohr: they were boiengs&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  LuciferSatan Genira: structural integrity no.. but to cause 2.5 seconds of absolute freefall...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  Charity Stohr: you're anaysys is unscientific, cherry picked, and often fabricated&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  LuciferSatan Genira: Charity..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  Charity Stohr: even then&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  LuciferSatan Genira: shut yor CRS nigger mouth up&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  LuciferSatan Genira: before i have to put a cap in your god&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  Charity Stohr: even if 9/11 was an inside job&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  Charity Stohr: so what?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  Charity Stohr: we slaughter millions of people overseas and you are conserned about 3,00 americans&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:46]  Charity Stohr: that's bullshit&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:47]  Charity Stohr: a human is a human, peroid&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: the more jews the better&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: americans are the true race&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:47]  Charity Stohr: ohh so you are a zionist truther?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: no..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: i said..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: the more jews that die.. the better&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:48]  LuciferSatan Genira: yes i care about americans..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:48]  Charity Stohr: like i said&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:48]  Charity Stohr: you think jews did wtc?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:48]  LuciferSatan Genira: i do not care about jews.. NOR palistinains&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:48]  LuciferSatan Genira: no the jews did communism&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:49]  Charity Stohr: then you are insane and a bigot&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:49]  Charity Stohr: your argument is invalid&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:49]  LuciferSatan Genira: how so?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:50]  LuciferSatan Genira: when lord lucifer orders the aliens to wipe out your race.. we will be able to breath again&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: CRS&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: Congressional research service&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: i know your game&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: you might not be.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: but your a fed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: and that  makes your argument invalid&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  LuciferSatan Genira: COINTELL PRO kills&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  Charity Stohr: i'm a fed?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  Charity Stohr: so many logical fallacies&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  LuciferSatan Genira: thats what im saying&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  Charity Stohr: it hurts&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  LuciferSatan Genira: huh?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  Charity Stohr: im not a fed (false assumption)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  LuciferSatan Genira: you suck at this&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  LuciferSatan Genira: im from england&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  Charity Stohr: if i was a fed that doesn't make my argument invalid (poisioning the well)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:52]  LuciferSatan Genira: i just moved&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:53]  Charity Stohr: well&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:53]  Charity Stohr: you are a racist&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:53]  LuciferSatan Genira: and im a citisen&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:53]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are a fed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:53]  LuciferSatan Genira: lol&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:53]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are so funny&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:53]  LuciferSatan Genira: you dont admit to it&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: i know the rules&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: you cant spy on me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: and now your pretending to be AFK&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:54]  Charity Stohr: i know where you live ;V&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: i know that rule too&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:54]  Charity Stohr: we have your phone tapped&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: no you dont&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:55]  LuciferSatan Genira: i live underground man&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:55]  LuciferSatan Genira: i dont have a phone&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:55]  LuciferSatan Genira: are you a federal agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:55]  Charity Stohr: what do you think?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:56]  LuciferSatan Genira: i think you are.. but you havent told me you are&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:56]  LuciferSatan Genira: so are you?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:56]  LuciferSatan Genira: how come its too hard to say no?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:57]  LuciferSatan Genira: AFK again?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:57]  LuciferSatan Genira: your AFK most of the time&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:57]  Charity Stohr: i'm checking your folder, hold on&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:57]  LuciferSatan Genira: ok&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:57]  LuciferSatan Genira: does it say that i killed one of your spys?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:59]  LuciferSatan Genira: does it say that EVERYONE ive uncovered has been pushed against the rules?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[1:59]  LuciferSatan Genira: and has broken each and every one of them?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:00]  LuciferSatan Genira: your next&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:00]  LuciferSatan Genira: if i ever see you online again in any chat room containing  more forginers..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:00]  LuciferSatan Genira: ill expose you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:00]  LuciferSatan Genira: cause what your doing is international spying..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:00]  LuciferSatan Genira: not just international spying..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: but spying PERIOD&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: and thats illegal&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: cant spy on american citizens&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: without a warant&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: the inter-net is just that..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  Charity Stohr: ever herd of the patriot act?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: international&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: www = world wide web&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  Charity Stohr: we're fighting an international war on terror&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: your an international terrorist&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:02]  Charity Stohr: and the UKis assisting us&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:02]  Charity Stohr: clearly&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:02]  LuciferSatan Genira: no&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:02]  LuciferSatan Genira: i dont think so&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:03]  LuciferSatan Genira: your in so many groups&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:03]  LuciferSatan Genira: i will expose you now&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;-------------METANOMICS CHAT----------------&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:04]  LuciferSatan Genira: EVERYONE LISTEN UP!!!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:04]  LuciferSatan Genira: i have exposed a situation on SL&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:04]  LuciferSatan Genira: i believe the american government is spying on THIS GROUP!!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:04]  Tizzy Teardrop gets popcorn.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:05]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr.. ARE YOU A GOVERNMENT AGENT??&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:05]  LuciferSatan Genira: members of the american agency known as the CRS (congressional Research service) have come to me with information&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:06]  LuciferSatan Genira: it seems there are watching our every move&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:06]  Tizzy Teardrop: Ceilingcat is watching you play SL.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:06]  LuciferSatan Genira: this individual tells me that ALL groups are being monitored for activist activity&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:06]  Cierra Anatine: mmmmm....okay&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:06]  LuciferSatan Genira: which is illegal on two fronts&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:06]  LuciferSatan Genira: This is intrnational espionage&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:06]  LuciferSatan Genira: and&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:07]  LuciferSatan Genira: unwarrented spying on american citizens&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:07]  LuciferSatan Genira: The organization responcible  is the CRS (congressional research service)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:07]  LuciferSatan Genira: as well as other possible groups&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:07]  LuciferSatan Genira: it seems they all work out of washington D.C.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:08]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:08]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:08]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;--------------Free State Project Chat--------------------&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:08]  Charity Stohr: Under Section 17 of the U.S.A. P.A.T.I.O.T. ACT I order you cease immediatly.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;-------------METANOMICS CHAT----------------&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: i will post this question once a minute&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: till the person logs out of this group&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: and this chat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: OR&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: till they answer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: sorry people&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: this is how you catch a spy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:10]  Tizzy Teardrop: Lucifer, the second you clicked accept on the Terms of Service, you agreed to section 6.2 which states, "Linden Lab may observe and record your interaction within the Service, and may share aggregated and other general information (not including your personal information) with third parties."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:10]  LuciferSatan Genira: yes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:11]  LuciferSatan Genira: that is collected inorder to aquire information about the individual they are spying on&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:11]  LuciferSatan Genira: simply&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:11]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:12]  Tizzy Teardrop: I'd tell you to shut off the computer and go outside but the satellites might be watching you.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:12]  Tizzy Teardrop: Have to be careful about that.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:12]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:12]  LuciferSatan Genira: please dont use the group so the chat can be at a minimum&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:12]  LuciferSatan Genira: thank you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:12]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:13]  Tizzy Teardrop thinks you should take your own advice. *laughs*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:13]  Cierra Anatine: what do you have to hide that's making you so paranoid, Lucifer?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:13]  LuciferSatan Genira: non related.. Charlty Stohr are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:14]  Tizzy Teardrop: His porn collection, obviously.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:14]  LuciferSatan Genira: these government agents use a tactic known as ''flaming''&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:14]  LuciferSatan Genira: the tactic is ment to disturb the group so that no one continues to use it&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:14]  Cierra Anatine: stop spamming the group&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:15]  LuciferSatan Genira: by ''useing flame''.. they can destroy all groups which pose a threat simply by existing threw numbers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:15]  Cierra Anatine: hhmm....you mean like what you are doing right now??&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:15]  LuciferSatan Genira: Cierra are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:15]  Cierra Anatine: hahahaha&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:15]  LuciferSatan Genira: i am not a government agent&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:15]  LuciferSatan Genira: answer the question&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:15]  Tizzy Teardrop: Spy sappin my sentry.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:15]  Lynni Aeon: Funny...I muted him the first time he tried this...now I can only see one side of this conversation..heheh&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  Sonja Strom: me too&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  LuciferSatan Genira: Tizzy are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  Tizzy Teardrop: Yes. *cues 007 theme*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  Lynni Aeon: :)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  Tizzy Teardrop: Dun dun dun dun dun dun&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  Tizzy Teardrop strikes a pose.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  LuciferSatan Genira: the individual has admited to being a government agent&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  LuciferSatan Genira: tizzy for what governemnt do you work for?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  Cierra Anatine looks for her shoe phone&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  Sonja Strom: I am too Lucifer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:16]  Tizzy Teardrop: The glorious motherland of soviet woodbury.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:17]  Lynni Aeon: and now....close window...XD&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:17]  Sonja Strom: and I am watching you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:17]  LuciferSatan Genira: any other governments?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:17]  Tizzy Teardrop: The republic of ravenglass.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:17]  Cierra Anatine: we're all watching you Lucifer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:17]  Sonja Strom: Arosa Village&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:17]  LuciferSatan Genira: do you work for a government located in north america?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:18]  Sonja Strom: I work for the United Nations&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:18]  Cierra Anatine: if i worked for the post office, would i be suspect?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:18]  Sonja Strom: my job is to watch IMs in Second Life&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:18]  LuciferSatan Genira: the united nations do not have a spy agency&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:18]  LuciferSatan Genira: the post office do not have a spy agency&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:18]  Sonja Strom: if it did Lucifer, how would you know?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:19]  Cierra Anatine: why are you so paranoid?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:19]  Cierra Anatine: makes me think you have something to hide&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:19]  Sonja Strom: yes, what *do* you have to hide, Lucifer?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:19]  Cierra Anatine: are you an "activist"...as you call it?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:19]  Tizzy Teardrop: Here's some food for thought Lucifer. Linden Lab works closely with the National Defense University and previously posted job openings that required government security clearance. :)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:19]  LuciferSatan Genira: im an officer of indymedia.. i am uncovering the existance of government agents on SL, comiting terrorism and spying on American and non american individuals&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:20]  LuciferSatan Genira: i would like to contact your uper in command Tizzy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:20]  Tizzy Teardrop: Send an IM to Prokofy Neva.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:20]  Tizzy Teardrop: She can tell you everything.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:20]  LuciferSatan Genira: thank you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:20]  Tizzy Teardrop: Anytime :)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:22]  Cierra Anatine: it is no secret that Homeland Security is in SL&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:23]  Charity Stohr: ✡&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:23]  LuciferSatan Genira: Homeland Security are responcible for unwarrently spying&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:23]  LuciferSatan Genira: that is illegal&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:23]  LuciferSatan Genira: i would like to contact your orchestraighter&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:23]  LuciferSatan Genira: the individual known as Prokofy Neva is not responding&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:24]  LuciferSatan Genira: all those listening in.. becareful of crashing clients&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:24]  LuciferSatan Genira: they are known to do such things&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:25]  LuciferSatan Genira: [2:08]  Charity Stohr: Under Section 17 of the U.S.A. P.A.T.I.O.T. ACT I order you cease immediatly.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:25]  LuciferSatan Genira: as such a statement was recorded in public group chat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:25]  LuciferSatan Genira: i am able to share such&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:26]  Aquamina Khalifa: You must be in a hospital somewhere wearing a straight jacket using your nose to type; cut the crap now please&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:26]  Cierra Anatine: umm...you were misspelling the name in the group chat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:26]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have not alowed me any way of due process&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:27]  LuciferSatan Genira: i am currently being spyed on&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:27]  LuciferSatan Genira: and i seek due process&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:27]  Cierra Anatine: for what?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:27]  LuciferSatan Genira: i believe that what you are doing is illegal&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:27]  Cierra Anatine: why would you be spied upon?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:27]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are spying on ALL of the members of this international forum&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:28]  LuciferSatan Genira: internet = international network&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:28]  Cierra Anatine: i think you've been drinking&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:28]  LuciferSatan Genira: www = world wide web&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:28]  Cierra Anatine: go to bed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:28]  LuciferSatan Genira: i would like to contact your supervisor dirrectly&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:29]  Cierra Anatine: I am my own supervisor&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;++++++++++++TIZZY AND CHARITY I TP WHERE LUCIFER IS STANDING+++++++++++&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:30]  LuciferSatan Genira: then i would like to speak to the next in your chain of command&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:30]  Charity Stohr: she is standing right next to you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;+++++++++++++++++++++++ IN OPEN CHAT NEXT TO LUCIFER++++++++++++&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2009/12/06 2:29]  Charity Stohr: you know that guy i was spying on?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2009/12/06 2:29]  Tizzy Teardrop: Yes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2009/12/06 2:29]  Charity Stohr: he wants to talk to you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2009/12/06 2:30]  Mia Lemieux is Offline&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2009/12/06 2:30]  Jinx Paz: shit music e ven biffernign in it unes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2009/12/06 2:30]  Jinx Paz: my net must having issues&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2009/12/06 2:30]  Guinevere Kirshner: lool&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2009/12/06 2:31]  Tizzy Teardrop spies.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;++++++++++++++++ LUCIFER RUNS AWAY THEN TELEPORTS AWAY +++++++++&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:30]  Cierra Anatine: mmm...that would be me, too&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:31]  LuciferSatan Genira: i note that what you are doing is harrassment&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:31]  LuciferSatan Genira: i am not an american citizen&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:31]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are unable to detain me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:32]  Charity Stohr: you offered us to this club, under PATRIOT ACT Section 22, we can accsept invitations w/o warrent or reasonable suspission.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:32]  LuciferSatan Genira: which is what you have tryed to do, by restricting my inworld movement&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:32]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have attempted to break your terms of service, by restricting my movment&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:32]  Charity Stohr: negitive.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:33]  Cierra Anatine: brb..need mopre popcorn&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:33]  Charity Stohr: please take this converation out of the puplic eye. You are in violation of federal laws protecting confidential investigations.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:33]  LuciferSatan Genira: yes you have&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:34]  LuciferSatan Genira: no i am not&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:35]  LuciferSatan Genira: Charity Stohr since you have violated terms of service for this client, and broke international laws as well as unwarrented spying.. i wish to talk to your supervisor&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:35]  Charity Stohr: that would be Tizzy Teardrop&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:35]  Charity Stohr: she is my ranking officer.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:35]  Charity Stohr: clearly.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:36]  LuciferSatan Genira: i wish for your supervisor to contact me dirrectly&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:36]  LuciferSatan Genira: asap&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:36]  LuciferSatan Genira: since im currently having my rights violated&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:37]  Charity Stohr: who when where or why she talks with you is on her own will, she is not obligated to speak with you.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:37]  LuciferSatan Genira: since a major law has been broken.. i wish to speak to the individual/individuals whome are in jurisdiction of these affairs&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:37]  Charity Stohr: she has been made awares of your request.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:37]  Tizzy Teardrop: We know what you did Lucifer. We are the invisible hand. We are the FIC.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:38]  Charity Stohr: laws do not apply to us&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:38]  Charity Stohr: you know too much&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:38]  LuciferSatan Genira: are you Charity Stohr a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  Charity Stohr: if i answered that honestly, i would have to kill you.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have desided to make threats&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  LuciferSatan Genira: since you are obligated to amit you are to me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  Charity Stohr: no threats&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  LuciferSatan Genira: admit*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  Charity Stohr: im just saying i cannot answer the question&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  Charity Stohr: no&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  LuciferSatan Genira: that is a lie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:39]  Charity Stohr: i admit nothing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:40]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are forced to.. under international law&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:40]  LuciferSatan Genira: that is the last time i wil remind you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:40]  Charity Stohr: no, I am not bound by international law in me investigation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:40]  Charity Stohr: my*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:40]  Cierra Anatine: nope...only name, rank, and serial number&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:40]  LuciferSatan Genira: i wish to speak to an individual whome is higher in your chain of command whome is not present&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:40]  Tizzy Teardrop: Thank you for contacting the FIC with your conerns Lucifer. Unforuntately we are unable to answer IMs directly. Please press F1 for help or feel free to file a support ticket at www.SecondLife.com.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:41]  Charity Stohr: Tizzers IS my ranking officer.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:41]  Charity Stohr: THE ranking officer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:41]  LuciferSatan Genira: then i will submit a ticket under a falce account&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:41]  LuciferSatan Genira: false*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:41]  LuciferSatan Genira: with a false IP&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:42]  LuciferSatan Genira: Tizzy teardrop&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:42]  LuciferSatan Genira: i wish to contact your supervisor threw telephone&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:42]  LuciferSatan Genira: what is the number please&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:43]  Tizzy Teardrop: You can also contact our complaints department at 1-985-655-2500. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:44]  LuciferSatan Genira: is there an 800 number i can call?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:45]  Charity Stohr: 800&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:45]  Charity Stohr: are you kidding me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:45]  Charity Stohr: you cheap bastard&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:46]  LuciferSatan Genira: i wish to call from an 800 number using a method of hiding my IP&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:46]  LuciferSatan Genira: if i was a paying customer they would already have my information&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: i am doing such only for privacy reasons&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:47]  Cierra Anatine: they already do have your info....your payment info is on file&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: my payment info is secure&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: i used a gift card&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:47]  LuciferSatan Genira: untracable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:48]  Cierra Anatine: what are you hiding, Lucifer?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:48]  LuciferSatan Genira: i am a private person&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:48]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are responcible for unwarrently spying on me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:48]  Cierra Anatine: not i&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:48]  LuciferSatan Genira: and drilling me even though i have not been arrested&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:49]  LuciferSatan Genira: i would consider such ''questioning'' harrassment&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:49]  LuciferSatan Genira: how many times have you asked that question?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:49]  Charity Stohr: I find you harassing. I will submit your name to the FIC meeting this wednsday&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:49]  LuciferSatan Genira: i can count for atleast 3&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:50]  Cierra Anatine: i think your posts on this group will result in an AR&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:50]  LuciferSatan Genira: you do not have such a right to continue harrassing me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:50]  Charity Stohr: nor you me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:50]  LuciferSatan Genira: these conversations are being recorded btw&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:50]  Charity Stohr: i was just investigating you, and you spammed me.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:50]  Charity Stohr: remember&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:50]  OslacRex Bing: considers the concept of complaining anonymously&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:50]  Charity Stohr: i didn't spam you. I was queit this whole time.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:51]  Tizzy Teardrop: Lucifer you have already violated the TOS by pasting private IMs in this group.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: yes you did&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: and i have that conversation recorded aswell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: i have not passed any private Ims&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:51]  LuciferSatan Genira: the information passed on was from a public forum&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:52]  LuciferSatan Genira: and trust law is not mentioned in TOS&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:52]  Cierra Anatine: you have also held this group chat hostage for nearly an hour, which is violating my right to use this if i wish to&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:53]  Tizzy Teardrop: Metanomics should do a connecting the dots special with this guy.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:53]  Charity Stohr: Well&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:53]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have been using this group the whole time&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:53]  Charity Stohr: we have what we needed.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  Charity Stohr: we have him admiting he knows what happend on 9/11&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have violated most laws of spying&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: and also harrassment&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have violated terms of service&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  Charity Stohr: thats enough for a quiet military tribunal under the Millitary Commissions Act.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: and community conduct&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  Tizzy Teardrop: Yea we're new, first day on the job and such.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  Charity Stohr: your messages have been logged and someone will be contacting you shortly. take care.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:54]  LuciferSatan Genira: if you are american agents.. then i hope you burn in hell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:55]  Charity Stohr: There is no hell, we make that up to keep you in line.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:55]  LuciferSatan Genira: this is exactly what i would expect of american agents&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:55]  Charity Stohr: who said we're american?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:56]  Tizzy Teardrop: Don't worry sir, we're from the internet.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:56]  Charity Stohr: ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:56]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are continueing to break international laws&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:56]  Charity Stohr: like i said&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:56]  Charity Stohr: international law is inapplicable to us&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:56]  LuciferSatan Genira: international laws for your country&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:56]  LuciferSatan Genira: i know them&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:57]  Charity Stohr: site them all then mr INTERPOL&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:57]  LuciferSatan Genira: i have lawyers for such&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:58]  Charity Stohr: your lawyers will not be allowed in a tribunal&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:58]  LuciferSatan Genira: millitary tribunal?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:58]  LuciferSatan Genira: are you millitary?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:59]  LuciferSatan Genira: for what reasons would i be brought to charges?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:59]  Charity Stohr: Sir, i am not authorized to comment on my postition, rank, or branch&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:59]  Charity Stohr: it would be a violation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:59]  Tizzy Teardrop: Delusional disorder is a psychiatric diagnosis denoting a psychotic mental disorder that is characterized by holding one or more non-bizarre delusions[1] in the absence of any other significant psychopathology. Non-bizarre delusions are fixed beliefs that are certainly and definitely false, but that could possibly be plausible, for example, someone who thinks he or she is under police surveillance.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:59]  LuciferSatan Genira: but you admit you are a government agent infront of us&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[2:59]  Charity Stohr: I am however a senior officer in the Feted Inner Core.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:00]  Charity Stohr: thats the only group i can admit my agency.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:00]  Charity Stohr: What Tizzers said&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:00]  Charity Stohr: you are paranoid&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:00]  Charity Stohr: see what your conspiracy theories have done?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:01]  Charity Stohr: make you look like a total ass to everyone in the group&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:01]  Charity Stohr: LOL I TROLL U&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: and currently you are attempting to harrass me, by use of discrediting me?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:01]  LuciferSatan Genira: that is a violation of my rights&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:01]  Charity Stohr: no, you harassed yourself&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:01]  Charity Stohr: with your batshit lunacy.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:01]  Tizzy Teardrop: I think you've discredited yourself quite successfully. LMAO&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:02]  Charity Stohr: we don't need to shoot your foot, because you did it for us&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:02]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are continueing to harrass me then&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:02]  Charity Stohr: no&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:02]  Charity Stohr: you are harassing yourself&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  LuciferSatan Genira: what you are doing is a terms of service AND a breaking of the community standards&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  Charity Stohr: nope&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  Charity Stohr: community standards and TOS doesn't cover someone making an ass out of themselfs&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  Charity Stohr: and us helping :3&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  Cierra Anatine: just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  Charity Stohr: j/k&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  Charity Stohr: im really spying on you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  Cierra Anatine: run, Lucifer, run&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:03]  Charity Stohr: @_@&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:04]  Charity Stohr: i am spying on you from the fine people of Israel ✡&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:04]  LuciferSatan Genira: yes it is&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:04]  LuciferSatan Genira: yes it is&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:04]  LuciferSatan Genira: yes it is&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:04]  LuciferSatan Genira: yes it is&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:04]  Charity Stohr: in befotre snapping&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:05]  Charity Stohr: and I regret to inform you:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:05]  Charity Stohr: Jews DIDN'T do WTC or communism&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:05]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are currently making general statements about my health ''[3:04]  Cierra Anatine: run, Lucifer, run'' can be construded as a threat.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:06]  Charity Stohr: construded if you are paranoid&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:06]  Charity Stohr: i guess&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:06]  Cierra Anatine: mmm not hardly&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:07]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have made multiple threats in the same generalization&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:07]  Cierra Anatine: i have threatened no one&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:09]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have threatend me.. if you have not threatened me.. then i feal threatened..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:09]  Philo Irata: get over it&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:09]  Philo Irata: stop the spam&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:10]  Cierra Anatine: i told you Lucifer, I am my own supervisor&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:10]  LuciferSatan Genira: that is impossible&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:10]  Cierra Anatine: no it's not&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:10]  Philo Irata: Cierra, stop toying with the nusiance&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:10]  LuciferSatan Genira: since you are on SL as a spy.. and you are members of certain groups to spy upon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:10]  Cierra Anatine: i work for myself&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:11]  LuciferSatan Genira: then your existance in those groups, is because of spy activity&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:11]  LuciferSatan Genira: what is your line of work?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:11]  LuciferSatan Genira: your alibi will not hold up in court, child..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:12]  Cierra Anatine: don't call me a child&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:13]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have revield your self to not be simply using the SL client but spying within another SL community&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:13]  LuciferSatan Genira: i have recorded that conversation aswell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:14]  Rory Serpente: I just logged in and I assume - [3:13]  LuciferSatan Genira: you have revield your self to not be simply using the SL client but spying within another SL community&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:13]  LuciferSatan Genira: i have recorded that conversation aswell - is not to myself?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:14]  Cierra Anatine: i have "revealed" no such thing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:14]  Rory Serpente: Lucifer while Rory's account is only some 13 months old - may I say 1 thing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:15]  Rory Serpente: I read Cierra's reply&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:15]  Rory Serpente: and I knew her well for some time in Winterfell and what you said is not teh Lady I knew.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:15]  Cierra Anatine: :-)))&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:16]  Rory Serpente: and  LuciferSatan Genira, may I point out to you taht non Metanomics related accusations liek yours are against the group charter&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:16]  Cierra Anatine: Poor dear Lucifer is delusional, and i admit I am just egging him on a bit....please forgive me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:17]  Rory Serpente: THe facts of teh matter are none of my business however you have publically blackened a persons name and I shal be bringthis to eth attention of eth Group Admin&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:17]  LuciferSatan Genira: i can transcribe the messages which started this conversation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:17]  LuciferSatan Genira: it is Metanomics related&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:17]  LuciferSatan Genira: i have red the charter&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:17]  LuciferSatan Genira: read*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:18]  Rory Serpente: Excellent then when Admin contacts you there should be no issue&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:18]  Rory Serpente: Excellent then when Admin contacts you there should be no issue&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:19]  LuciferSatan Genira: you are openly harrassing me then&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:19]  Rory Serpente: however kindly IM me wher eit says you can do what another member does on their private blog and besmirch people.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:19]  LuciferSatan Genira: you know such accusations are false.. and yet you will attempt to misslead individuals with admin abilities to harrass me?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:19]  LuciferSatan Genira: Rory i wish to speak with your supervisor&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:20]  LuciferSatan Genira: what you have done is a TOS violation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:20]  LuciferSatan Genira: and community standards&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:20]  Rory Serpente: my supervisor - what are you talking about?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:20]  LuciferSatan Genira: Rory are you a government agent?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:20]  Rory Serpente: and if I have breached TOS AR me to LL&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:20]  Cierra Anatine: hahahaha....now you are suspect, Rory&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'courier new';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;[3:20]  LuciferSatan Genira: i record all inform
